PacoCasanovasOld
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Wow why did you put slave out to PA?? Same as axefx without cab...
Are you using the Axe-Fx II input noise gate? Try turning it off by lowering the threshold & ratio all the way down. Sometimes the background noise is perceived as part of the Tone & feel. I noticed this with a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100 and Mesa Boogie TriAxis. Most of the tone & feel issues I have are from the power amp modeling. If I disable the Marshall models power amp and plug my Axe-Fx II into the real Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100 power amp I get most of the tone & feel I was missing.
I don't care if it feels the same as something else as long as it feels good.
That said, the Axe Mark patches have always been a little different to the real thing to me. I'd be interested to try the settings tweaks suggested earlier in the case.
You are going to get a fair amount of difference ,by the vibrations of your cab (Feel)even if you can't hear it( which I would guess you hear it more than you think,even though it is muffled with pillows and blankets!To do an accurate comparison the cab has to be totally out of the room ,sound and vibrations!!!
The Axe-Fx is what it is. It's not a tube amp. It's the best digital approximation available (yes the BEST).
The Axe-Fx is what it is. It's not a tube amp. It's the best digital approximation available (yes the BEST). If that doesn't suit you, move on.
You are going to get a fair amount of difference ,by the vibrations of your cab (Feel)even if you can't hear it( which I would guess you hear it more than you think,even though it is muffled with pillows and blankets!To do an accurate comparison the cab has to be totally out of the room ,sound and vibrations!!!
Aaah ! Ok misunderstood! Apologies!!!I also did Axe FX patch into poweramp/cab, as well as Mesa into the same cab (port city 2x12os).
Yup.
I do A/B tests on a daily basis and it's shocking what just a little low-frequency bleed does to your perception. I use an isolation cabinet in a closet with a blanket over it. There's still some low-frequency bleed. I'll listen to the amp feed first. If I listen to just the model and it sounds way different. If I listen to the model with the amp driving the isolation cabinet so I'm getting the bleed it sounds identical.
The only way to really appreciate the accuracy of the Axe-Fx is to go into the studio and listen to the amp from the control room and compare.
Sean is just tying to figure out something. It is a interesting experiment however it turns out
Sean did you run only preamp (pa sim off) to the poweramp? Did you try pa sim on?
You are also using a Mark V, and from what i have read it does not sound exactly like mark IV or IIc+?
I'm using a solid state poweramp so that wouldn't work (matrix gt1000fx)
And you're right they do have some differences but I've played both the IIC+ and a V, and they still are pretty close. I've not used a Mark IV which is why I'm only going off of the IIC+ mode as I've played the original, the one in the Mark V, and the modeled one.
Ok. Have you tried Axe (pa sims off) into reurn of Mark V? Just to see if the difference is in poweramp or also in the preamp..