Windows 11

mr_fender said:
It's likely only a matter of time before Windows becomes a subscription service. Everything is going that way. You'll have to pay a monthly fee for access and updates, just like Office is now. That's why M$ is pushing so hard for Microsoft account integration into Windows.
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In 2003, Microsoft came to the campus of the university I was studying at on a recruiting tour, and they were talking about the future where Office and Windows would become services sold as subscriptions. Everybody in the audience was skeptical, to put it mildly. I personally thought that was a very lofty goal and didn’t believe it could be done.
 
Windows 11 is clown shoes. Everything is half-baked and half-assed.

There's absolutely no consistency. It's just a mish-mash of different looks and feels. Gray on light gray on slightly darker gray. Stupid scrollbars that aren't consistent between programs, bizzaro-world start menu and taskbar, useless "widgets", etc.

The vaunted new File Explorer can do tabs. Yippee!!! But they broke the back arrow feature where you could go back, say, five folders. Now you have to click, click, click, click, click. Clown shoes.

And everything feels slower like it's all written in some high-level scripting language that's generated millions of lines of code to do what used to take a few hundred.

A lot of the changes feel like change for the sake of change rather than any real improvement.
 
as a live streamer and content creator, I use OBS all the time to run about 9 different cameras (all using quad channel usb cards) and I've got everything just how I want it. there's no way I'm upgrading to win11, so I'm staying put on win10. Bring back MSDOS.

can you imagine if Cliff Chase made an OS? omg....
 
FractalAudio said:
Windows 11 is clown shoes. Everything is half-baked and half-assed.

There's absolutely no consistency. It's just a mish-mash of different looks and feels. Gray on light gray on slightly darker gray. Stupid scrollbars that aren't consistent between programs, bizzaro-world start menu and taskbar, useless "widgets", etc.

The vaunted new File Explorer can do tabs. Yippee!!! But they broke the back arrow feature where you could go back, say, five folders. Now you have to click, click, click, click, click. Clown shoes.

And everything feels slower like it's all written in some high-level scripting language that's generated millions of lines of code to do what used to take a few hundred.

A lot of the changes feel like change for the sake of change rather than any real improvement.
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FWIW, the new macOS 26 is also a pile of garbage—just a slightly smaller one. Even the guy in charge of the UI and aesthetics bailed to Meta, which pretty much says it all.
 
FractalAudio said:
A lot of the changes feel like change for the sake of change rather than any real improvement.
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The changes in Windows 11 are all about refining the OS as a data harvesting tool. Throw in a few shiny gewgaws to keep 'em entertained, and carry on with business.

To paraphrase an old Internet axiom: If you can't see how a new feature benefits you, you are not the intended beneficiary.
 
FractalAudio said:
Over 100K engineers and this is the best you can do? What a joke.
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And there's the sabotage/neglect of the Mac versions of product areas Microsoft wishes to monopolize. Back in the day I learned from a Mac engineer going to work on their Outlook team that they were joining one other Mac engineer while the Windows team had around fifty (if memory serves). Not long after that I lost a bunch of email due to the poorly implemented mailbox support on the Mac version.

I recall a guy hired away to a project manager position speaking glowingly of how all of our personal info would end up in Redmond.

Monsters don't perceive themselves as thus when they believe they are helping "for our own good."

And lately, Mac... Allowing companies like Microsoft to own portions of drives, and allowing auto upgrade/installation. It's all one giant phishing scheme. And so the devolution continues.

Thank you Fractal for supporting your products and eschewing programmed obsolescence.

Be well all.
 
nicolasrivera said:
FWIW, the new macOS 26 is also a pile of garbage—just a slightly smaller one. Even the guy in charge of the UI and aesthetics bailed to Meta, which pretty much says it all.
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I was going to say the same thing. The UI 🙄 These AI updates, summarization, etc... I've turned it off as much as I can. The fact that I can export audio from Logic Pro, add it to the Music app, yet none of my material shows up in the CarPlay Music app just irks me.
 
F*CK MOCOSOFT ACCOUNTS!!

I've wasted almost all the day with a failed installation of Python to use BACnet BACpypes on Windows 10. The Pip command and other things were not properly installed. It did not work until I installed it after login on that computer with a Hotmail account, even though I was not installing it from Mocosoft Store but from the command prompt. 🤬

Whythfck should I use my Microsoft Hotmail account to install a third party non-Windows app on a industrial PC that is not mine?

sad no way GIF by URBAN & UNCUT Studios
 
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The start menu is such trash now. Can't stand it. I groan almost every time I have to use it. I've tried to neuter it of all the extra crap they've put in there. Make it like old windows. Or Linux. Start > all programs or categories > apps. That's it. Not weather. Not most used. Not recommended. Not news highlights. Just let me pick an app.
 
Necr0lancer said:
The start menu is such trash now. Can't stand it. I groan almost every time I have to use it. I've tried to neuter it of all the extra crap they've put in there. Make it like old windows. Or Linux. Start > all programs or categories > apps. That's it. Not weather. Not most used. Not recommended. Not news highlights. Just let me pick an app.
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I use Classic Start Menu since windows 7 era, it's perfect, why change ?
 
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Finally ditched my last Windows install. I still have it, it's just sitting on its SSD in a box. That particular machine runs CachyOS now, couldn't be happier.
 
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