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That was meant as a joke. No disrespect to any side of the argument!

i made a decisionlong time ago. I worked on any and all Linux and BSD OSes in existence and wouldn't even consider them for home computer for doing anything outside of browser windows. Sorry not sorry.
 
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That was meant as a joke. No disrespect to any side of the argument!

i made a decisionlong time ago. I worked on any and all Linux and BSD OSes in existence and wouldn't even consider them for home computer for doing anything outside of browser windows. Sorry not sorry.
What are computers for besides audio and browsers?
 
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What are computer for besides audio and browsers?
Well… porn work?… as one of the examples.
I mean nothing comes close to MS Office package on desktops.
Nothing, just… nothing. And yes, I’ve tried pretty much every free, open source, desktop and cloud service, free or paid, “personal” or “business” looking for replacement.
Nothing. Nada. Zero. The rest are the joke. Sorry not sorry.

I really don’t want to be a part of this discussion - sorry!
 
That is a problem with the OS. If the apps I need or want don't exist, then the OS doesn't work. It's not better.
That's a simple way of looking at it and you're ignoring the real source of the problem. I know in some practical sense you're right. But it's also in a practical sense that I say we would all be better off if Linux was more popular and more software was written for it. But unfortunately, we live in the real-life version of Idiocracy where the "my team" mentality prevents us from actual thinking of the future. Whether something works now is the most important feature, even if it abuses and diminishes us daily.
 
What an abject mess this OS is. It works fine, it just looks like hot garbage. There is zero consistency to the interface. The scrollbar disappears in some programs (i.e., MS Word). In other programs the thumb turns into a skinny line unless you hover over it. Yet in other programs the thumb stays a constant width.

Some programs have a colored title bar, others are just white. Worse yet, some programs like the photo viewer are black with a black title bar.

It looks like a big mish-mash of different styles with absolutely no consistency.
 
It's all about $$$, be great to have FM9 Edit on Ubuntu...
With that said, between the release of Windows 10 and Windows 11, Microsoft's stock value saw significant growth. On the release date of Windows 10 (July 29, 2015), the stock price was approximately $45 per share. By the release date of Windows 11 (October 5, 2021), the stock price had increased to roughly $285 per share. After October 5, 2021, the stock value continued to fluctuate, reaching a peak of approximately $420 per share in late 2023, but declined to approximately $380 per share by late 2025.
 
What an abject mess this OS is. It works fine, it just looks like hot garbage. There is zero consistency to the interface. The scrollbar disappears in some programs (i.e., MS Word). In other programs the thumb turns into a skinny line unless you hover over it. Yet in other programs the thumb stays a constant width.

Some programs have a colored title bar, others are just white. Worse yet, some programs like the photo viewer are black with a black title bar.

It looks like a big mish-mash of different styles with absolutely no consistency.
I agree on this and all previous posts, I tried win11 a couple of times and always went back to 10. And that was before the non sense AI injection everywhere.
Anyway win10 LTSC is going to receive updates for a long time so...
 
That was true for a loooong time. But since Nadella took over the lion's share of revenue has come from Cloud Services.
 
That was true for a loooong time. But since Nadella took over the lion's share of revenue has come from Cloud Services.
And Nadella's insistence that Azure embrace Linux has been a lynchpin of that strategy. Made them #2 in the cloud space, for certain. Linux, where it shines, in the server space.

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Y'know, I don't care about the clunkiness, the interface inconsistency, and I can even (reluctantly) get over the constant intrusive attempts to make my computer do things I don't tell it to. (Although, doesn't that make the OS akin to a virus?)

What I can't get past is that ever since they moved W10 to most of the codebase for W11, the darn thing started crashing. After the "upgrade" to W11, it continued. From stupid stuff like explorer randomly abending to serious problems like the system freezing with no error messages and nothing in the log after rebooting. This on a well tuned, high specced computer with years of several-month long uninterrupted up-time stretches, only broken by Microsoft's forced updates.

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And Nadella's insistence that Azure embrace Linux has been a lynchpin of that strategy. Made them #2 in the cloud space, for certain. Linux, where it shines, in the server space.
I don’t know if it has anything to do with technology. Having been with all three in meetings where they were selling services to clients, the other two are just weird and undisciplined. Google simply don’t understand the enterprise (to the point where clients were asking to not bring them to meetings at all because they just don’t get what they’re being asked about and keep blabbering about all the tech stuff nobody is interested in). Amazon are better but they can just fail to show up in a call they themselves organized. In fact, a year ago they called a conference, invited a bunch of CEOs and such, but forgot to book a venue or prepare something because they didn’t communicate between departments properly. 😂 So the event got cancelled a week before the date, everybody had to cancel tickets, hotel bookings etc. And now that they’re laying off middle management it’ll only get worse. Microsoft are simply the only adults in this space. Not that they don’t have their own blunders but not nearly to the extent the other two routinely perform. And if you’re an enterprise who will depend on a service, you really need to talk to somebody who makes sense and can show up on time. You’d think it’s not rocket science but apparently it is even more difficult for some.
 
It's likely only a matter of time before Windows becomes a subscription service. Everything is going that way. You'll have to pay a monthly fee for access and updates, just like Office is now. That's why M$ is pushing so hard for Microsoft account integration into Windows.
 
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