Mostly. I had a pretty high end amplifier in the 70's that had a good implementation of this, but it really only worked at "soft background" music level. But it did its job. The thing was, I never read the instructions at the time and my ear was not trained enough to know what it was doing.
In the '70s, most people used it as an always-on boost. "Wow, man, listen to all that bass!" It made the radio announcer's voice sound like a cartoon when the stereo was cranked, but no one seemed to realize it.
Because the tweeter is turned off. At that point the highs are basically what you'd get with a 12" guitar speaker.
That's with the tweeter on, so the response stays pretty flat to 10K, varying by about ±3 dB…
Also, I think the intent for that mode might be for use without an IR / Cabinet modeling...
Power-amp modeling on, cab modeling off. That mode will not be an FRFR setting.
I run using Monitor 2, with no other changes. It's extremely full sounding.
Agreed all around.
Just checked, I'm boosting 2.5k by 3dB. I think its fine. You have to remember, frequency response charts show the response of the speaker in a perfect room. Whatever room the speaker is in will affect the response. Perhaps something about my room necessitates a boost in mids around that frequency, or perhaps the Tonex models I am using are just voiced different than my usual preference and I am compensating.
For me, it totally depends on the room it's in, and where the EV is located in that room. IME there is no silver bullet that's going to work in all cases. It's one of the things I like about this speaker, since I can save a preset for my most commonly-used gig locations to use as a starting point.
Man I looked a t the 1st, 10th and last page of this thread to see the progression over what is like 2 (almost 3 years) of you using the EV's and the fact you're still using it makes me feel confident in these. I have been throwing the idea around between the Friendman ASC10 and Red Sound MF10 because I like the idea of something looking more like a cab but then the I get what feels like a moment of clarity and think that I should be trying to get a monitor that will be more in line with FOH so I don't have a drastic difference on stage vs FOH.
I have a pair of them, and though I wonder about other offerings, I still love the form-factor, weight, and sound.
Thanks for your input man I think I’ll just pick these up and end my obsessive researching… the Friedmans asc10’s and red sound mf10s almost had me but man the resale value is bad and they’re very niche. The EV’s se at least more universal and I like the price better too. Not mention availability and the customer service of EV. I do wish they had 10’ option but they don’t look to big as is and under 30lbs I th in no that’s great for a powered 12’ wooden cab.
I own both the MF10 and the EV. The EV is the better product IMO. The MF10 sounds very smooth, and the bass response is better tuned for guitars, but the EV is louder, has a much more accurate production of higher frequencies, has a way better dispersion pattern, has onboard DSP, multiple inputs and individual gain levels for each, costs less, and can be set up in so many unique and useful ways (see Greg's post).
There’s definitely a difference in the sound when EQ’d for vocals.
yeah it's weird that some sound guys just don't seem to get that unless you're correcting for a room issue, leave the damn thing flat! lol It seems like it should make thei life super easy - no mic'ing an amp etc., but for some reason there's still a disconnect with a lot of them. The number of times an FOH guy has assured me he's not EQ'ing my tone, only to find out that the channel itself is flat, but the monitor bus is Eq'ed for more top end!There’s definitely a difference in the sound when EQ’d for vocals.
A couple weeks ago mine suddenly started sounding really shrill on stage, though it sounded great during setup, and nothing I could do would get it back to its full range, normal, sound. I was going crazy but survived the night, and during tear down the FOH guy came up and asked how I liked having my signal through the side fill monitors. WHAT TF!?!
That explained everything. He had my FOH feed heavily chopped up with a vocal EQ and was sending it back LOUDER than my monitor’s volume, through some old Cerwin-Vega horn-equipped hanging monitors that were piercing. I thanked him for trying to be helpful and asked him to never do that again because I can hear quite well through my own monitor(s). I’ll work with him on how modelers need to be EQd too.
I went into the garage the following day with my FM3 and set up the speaker, turned it up, and up, and it sounded glorious. I was so relieved. I tore the rig down, walked back in the house and my girlfriend told me that it sounded great in the house. Heh, everyone on the street could probably hear me.
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This is why you bring your own cab(s).
