Electro-Voice PXM-12MP report

Sixstring said:
Just the typical new gear smell that always seems to be present! If you are still smelling something after 3 weeks out of the box that could be something else. I would give repair@us.bosch.com a shout let them know what's up, they may have changed something in their manufacturing. Either way their service is second to none! ;)
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You must have had better luck than me. My speaker is in for repair for the second time in two years. Last time they had it less than a week and returned it. It didn't seem fixed then. At the time the repair center was in Lincoln, NE. This time the repair center is in Greer, SC and they have had my speaker since early November. They said the woofer was bad but they didn't have the part. I have been trying to get communication going with them since November and now they don't even respond. The last time I heard they said the part was still unavailable. How many months is reasonable for them to have my speaker while my warranty is running out, and I am without the use of the speaker.
My experience is the EV/Bosch repair service is TERRIBLE! They just refuse to communicate and I am now wondering if I will ever see my speaker again.
 
In post #312 on this thread, there are some pictures of PXM-12MP's in StudioSlips bags. I recently received some slightly different bags from StudioSlips, and wanted to post some pictures in case anyone is thinking about getting some. I had a very hard time finding information when I was looking at them and hopefully can help someone make a decision.

After some back and forth with StudioSlips about how I'd like to use the cases, and how that relates to the pictures Greg Ferguson posted. We determined that Greg was putting his speakers in his cases backwards in order to make things work the way I wanted them to be. It works, but not as elegant as I would like.

The way I wanted them to be was:
  • Whether the speakers are sitting upright or lying down, they will not be lying on the grill
  • The zipper pocket should sit over the grill to discourage laying it down on the grill
  • I wanted to be able to unzip the clamshell and fold back the top to use the speaker without removing it from the case
  • I wanted to be able to carry them with one hand, or a shoulder strap, or the speaker's handles

StudioSlips agreed to alter their pattern to accommodate this, and I'm happy to say, it turned out flawlessly. All of the things that I wanted worked out perfectly, and there were a few things that I was not expecting which were a pleasant surprise.

  • The quality of materials is much, much higher than I was expecting
  • The unexpected padding on the handles is appreciated when carrying two of them a long way
  • The zipper pocket is the perfect size to carry a FM3
  • I thought I was going to take the shoulder strap off when I wasn't using it and store it in the zipper pocket, but I haven't felt like it was in the way yet. It kind of tucks up under the pocket when not in use and naturally stays out of the way.

A couple of things that don't bother me, but someone might like to know

  • I probably wouldn't carry an FM3 in the zip pocket regularly since there is no protection for the screen. There's the option of putting it in with the screen towards the speaker but I'd worry about the buttons poking against the speaker grill. It's still nice to have the option for times when I can be careful enough with it. It'd be a bit of a squeeze to fit a FM3 and a power cord and patch cable in there, but it's possible.
  • When sitting upright on the narrow side with the handle pointing up, it looks unstable, like it wants to fall over but it's not at all. It's a visual thing, but in reality it's not going to tip over.
  • A regular power cord and XLR cable can't be left plugged when zipped up for transport. It will most certainly get bumped and break, But a right angle power cord and right angle XLR or 1/4" cable could be left plugged in and coiled up on the side when zipping it up.
  • I was thinking I would run the cables out the velcro handle openings, but now that I see it in person, there's no reason to do that. It's just as easy and clean to zip the side down farther or run the cable out the front. The handle openings are still good for carrying though, if you want a solid grip on both sides of the monitor

My recommendation for anyone having trouble deciding on which options to select when ordering:
  • Mention this post in your order and say you want the zipper and pocket configured like this. The website options will confuse things with the front/back pocket selection choices
  • Definitely get the pocket and the duffel handle
  • The carrying strap is an optional matter of preference, but I'd still specify it if I were ordering again
  • The velcro side handle access flaps are an optional matter of preference, and I probably wouldn't specify them if I were ordering again (not because they're bad, just because I don't need them as much as I thought I might)

I can confirm the opinions elsewhere on the forum that StudioSlips is very human and easy to work with. They are very responsive to emails and easy to talk to. They seem a little pricy, but not pricier than other options because there really are no other options. And once you see them in person it's easy to understand why they cost what they do. I'll be ordering from them again, but hopefully won't need to upgrade anything for a while.


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PSea said:
How much do they cost? Looks great!
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I worked a configuration that went above even these, and yeag they're on the expensive side, but worth it. Full padding, single or double padded pockets, Various handle configurations. Really nice. There are other suitable options for transporting these, but not like this.
 
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vibechild said:
Greg was putting his speakers in his cases backwards
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It's not consistent, I put them in however is easiest when I'm trying to get out the door. I also don't leave the bag on the EVs when I'm playing. I can, but typically I shove one inside the other, zip it up and toss it to the side of the stage.
 
vibechild said:
I probably wouldn't carry an FM3 in the zip pocket regularly since there is no protection for the screen.
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Flexible cutting boards are easily cut to size, and would help protect the front-panel.

vibechild said:
A regular power cord and XLR cable can't be left plugged when zipped up for transport. It will most certainly get bumped and break, But a right angle power cord and right angle XLR or 1/4" cable could be left plugged in and coiled up on the side when zipping it up.
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I carry right-angle adapters for AC and the XLR in the pocket of the bag just for that purpose. It's a pain to try to plug into them if they're left in place, and that'd reduce the clearance when they're plugged in but packed, so I wouldn't leave them in.

I use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073X2SDMJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LD59C4F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
 
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vibechild said:
In post #312 on this thread, there are some pictures of PXM-12MP's in StudioSlips bags. I recently received some slightly different bags from StudioSlips, and wanted to post some pictures in case anyone is thinking about getting some. I had a very hard time finding information when I was looking at them and hopefully can help someone make a decision.

After some back and forth with StudioSlips about how I'd like to use the cases, and how that relates to the pictures Greg Ferguson posted. We determined that Greg was putting his speakers in his cases backwards in order to make things work the way I wanted them to be. It works, but not as elegant as I would like.

The way I wanted them to be was:
  • Whether the speakers are sitting upright or lying down, they will not be lying on the grill
  • The zipper pocket should sit over the grill to discourage laying it down on the grill
  • I wanted to be able to unzip the clamshell and fold back the top to use the speaker without removing it from the case
  • I wanted to be able to carry them with one hand, or a shoulder strap, or the speaker's handles

StudioSlips agreed to alter their pattern to accommodate this, and I'm happy to say, it turned out flawlessly. All of the things that I wanted worked out perfectly, and there were a few things that I was not expecting which were a pleasant surprise.

  • The quality of materials is much, much higher than I was expecting
  • The unexpected padding on the handles is appreciated when carrying two of them a long way
  • The zipper pocket is the perfect size to carry a FM3
  • I thought I was going to take the shoulder strap off when I wasn't using it and store it in the zipper pocket, but I haven't felt like it was in the way yet. It kind of tucks up under the pocket when not in use and naturally stays out of the way.

A couple of things that don't bother me, but someone might like to know

  • I probably wouldn't carry an FM3 in the zip pocket regularly since there is no protection for the screen. There's the option of putting it in with the screen towards the speaker but I'd worry about the buttons poking against the speaker grill. It's still nice to have the option for times when I can be careful enough with it. It'd be a bit of a squeeze to fit a FM3 and a power cord and patch cable in there, but it's possible.
  • When sitting upright on the narrow side with the handle pointing up, it looks unstable, like it wants to fall over but it's not at all. It's a visual thing, but in reality it's not going to tip over.
  • A regular power cord and XLR cable can't be left plugged when zipped up for transport. It will most certainly get bumped and break, But a right angle power cord and right angle XLR or 1/4" cable could be left plugged in and coiled up on the side when zipping it up.
  • I was thinking I would run the cables out the velcro handle openings, but now that I see it in person, there's no reason to do that. It's just as easy and clean to zip the side down farther or run the cable out the front. The handle openings are still good for carrying though, if you want a solid grip on both sides of the monitor

My recommendation for anyone having trouble deciding on which options to select when ordering:
  • Mention this post in your order and say you want the zipper and pocket configured like this. The website options will confuse things with the front/back pocket selection choices
  • Definitely get the pocket and the duffel handle
  • The carrying strap is an optional matter of preference, but I'd still specify it if I were ordering again
  • The velcro side handle access flaps are an optional matter of preference, and I probably wouldn't specify them if I were ordering again (not because they're bad, just because I don't need them as much as I thought I might)

I can confirm the opinions elsewhere on the forum that StudioSlips is very human and easy to work with. They are very responsive to emails and easy to talk to. They seem a little pricy, but not pricier than other options because there really are no other options. And once you see them in person it's easy to understand why they cost what they do. I'll be ordering from them again, but hopefully won't need to upgrade anything for a while.


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Amazing photos and great, honest and informative testimonial. It was a pleasure working with you to get these done!
 
pima1234 said:
They made a pair of excellent covers for my Redsound Elis.8s. A nice high-end option to much of what's out there.
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I can't even call them "high-end". They have lots of ways of customizing, but the basic bags are very reasonable. We can get into high-end, but, whoa, their "high-end" bags are really nice.

A long time ago I decided I'd spend a minimum of 10% of the cost of a piece of equipment for a bag or protection for that device. I've never been let down by that.

It's still on the user to look ahead and think about how they're going to need to travel. If you're throwing units into the hold of an airplane, then a good quality flight-case with correctly spec'd out foam is essential. If you're traveling by cab or car, or commuter train and need to hand-carry, then that's an entirely different type of protection.

I want to buy once and be done with it because I've done the other thing and really hated having to replace something because the zippers failed or stitching failed on the straps or zippers.
 
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Greg Ferguson said:
I can't even call them "high-end". They have lots of ways of customizing, but the basic bags are very reasonable. We can get into high-end, but, whoa, their "high-end" bags are really nice.

A long time ago I decided I'd spend a minimum of 10% of the cost of a piece of equipment for a bag or protection for that device. I've never been let down by that.

It's still on the user to look ahead and think about how they're going to need to travel. If you're throwing units into the hold of an airplane, then a good quality flight-case with correctly spec'd out foam is essential. If you're traveling by cab or car, or commuter train and need to hand-carry, then that's an entirely different type of protection.

I want to buy once and be done with it because I've done the other thing and really hated having to replace something because the zippers failed or stitching failed on the straps or zippers.
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I completely agree. I spec'd out some higher priced ones for my PXM, and I'm impressed with what they offer. The price point is right, particularly given inflation and all.

And I forgot, but my Blueamps Cubo also came with a wonderful custom padded Studio Slips cover. That's another one I would love to have a full padded bag for with dual padded pockets.
 
I just got one of these speakers and used it on a gig yesterday and it worked perfectly. Very happy.

I guess I've been on a similar journey as many of you. Over the years I've been through:
  • Yamaha DXR10's - still kept as fallbacks for the band. Used them for a few years until I got the Atomic CLR's.
  • Atomic CLR's - Still have them but have been worried they will crap out at some point but have worked great so far. They are also kind of big and heavy.
  • Matrix FR10 - very small and compact, kind of cool but had to run it flat out to get it almost loud enough.
  • Friedman ASM-12 - Sounded great when playing with Marshall/Friedman style amps but didn't like it with say my Morgan AC-20 preset that I use a lot. Plus very big, heavy and awkward shape. It also scratched very easily that I found really odd.
  • Xitone - Mick created two custom builds for me. The first one sounded great but just got way to big and heavy. All my fault. He then build me a custom stereo cab with 2 x 8" speakers and 1U space for a Matrix power amp but I didn't really like how it sounded. Again, I'm sure it was all my fault.
  • Redsound Elis.8 Stereo pair - I really like them but I find the design lacking. First the volume knob protrudes from back of the unit so if they fall, the first thing that hits is the volume knob. A mate of mine has a pair and it happaned to him and the volume knob broke. The other design issue to me is that the speakers don't tilt enough backwards meaning they have to be quite far back behind so doesn't really work well on smaller stages. I was contemplating building some custom tilt-stands so they can tilt further back but another design issue for that is that the speakon connector is quite low on the unit so with enough tilt the speakon cables will be what it's leaning against.
This all led me to this EV PXM-12 speaker thread and purchase. I love coaxial speaker designs. And while they are not as small as the Elis.8 speakers they are definitely quite a bit smaller than the CLR's. They feel even smaller than they look when you have them next to each other. Very early days yet and so far very happy.
 
Johan Allard said:
I just got one of these speakers and used it on a gig yesterday and it worked perfectly. Very happy.

I guess I've been on a similar journey as many of you. Over the years I've been through:
  • Yamaha DXR10's - still kept as fallbacks for the band. Used them for a few years until I got the Atomic CLR's.
  • Atomic CLR's - Still have them but have been worried they will crap out at some point but have worked great so far. They are also kind of big and heavy.
  • Matrix FR10 - very small and compact, kind of cool but had to run it flat out to get it almost loud enough.
  • Friedman ASM-12 - Sounded great when playing with Marshall/Friedman style amps but didn't like it with say my Morgan AC-20 preset that I use a lot. Plus very big, heavy and awkward shape. It also scratched very easily that I found really odd.
  • Xitone - Mick created two custom builds for me. The first one sounded great but just got way to big and heavy. All my fault. He then build me a custom stereo cab with 2 x 8" speakers and 1U space for a Matrix power amp but I didn't really like how it sounded. Again, I'm sure it was all my fault.
  • Redsound Elis.8 Stereo pair - I really like them but I find the design lacking. First the volume knob protrudes from back of the unit so if they fall, the first thing that hits is the volume knob. A mate of mine has a pair and it happaned to him and the volume knob broke. The other design issue to me is that the speakers don't tilt enough backwards meaning they have to be quite far back behind so doesn't really work well on smaller stages. I was contemplating building some custom tilt-stands so they can tilt further back but another design issue for that is that the speakon connector is quite low on the unit so with enough tilt the speakon cables will be what it's leaning against.
This all led me to this EV PXM-12 speaker thread and purchase. I love coaxial speaker designs. And while they are not as small as the Elis.8 speakers they are definitely quite a bit smaller than the CLR's. They feel even smaller than they look when you have them next to each other. Very early days yet and so far very happy.
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Echoing this. I haven't tried all of those, but most. Sold the Atomics years ago and my last Xitone not too long ago. Still have the Elis.8 stereo pair, but it's on my list to sell.

I'm happy with the Fender FR-10s and v3 preamp. The EV is something different. All very useful and great products. The line out and eq ability are what really set them apart and increase their usefulness for gigs.

One awesome solution not on the above list is the Blueamps Cubo. Highly recommended.
 
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