jesussaddle
Power User
Short answer: No. Resetting the amp block just resets it to default parameters. Separate the parameter settings from the firmware 'sitting behind it', in your mind. The parameters are like overlays on the firmware. When the firmware is changed, even though your parameters are the same, the firmware they are controlling is now - uhm - different. So leaving parameters of a preset the same (with some deviated from their defaults), or any amount of intense tweaking of them, can neither one be guaranteed to give you the same sound the preset had with a prior firmware.Hi guys, firstly I'd like to thank the regular posters who have so much patience answering the same questions over again, it's really appreciated.
I do, however, have a question which may require even more of your patience but would help clear something up, hopefully for good. So, here goes,
I have an XL.
I have about 60 third party presets that I'm totally happy with and don't really want to have to mess about with until I'm more confident about the deep editing side of things.
Naturally, I'm curious to find out what Q7 sounds like. If I copy and paste my 60 presets to another bank, then update to the new firmware, does everything sound the same as before (6.01) because I haven't reset any amp blocks yet??
Would this approach now allow me to experiment with my copied presets by updating and resetting amp blocks to the new firmware amps but still have my original 60 presets the same as before (6.01).
What changes, if any, are made to the presets on the XL as soon as you update to Q7, and what changes are required by me??
Is there any kind soul who has the time and patience one more time??
I promise never to ask this again
Algorithms and code can be modified when firmware update is released (and not every firmware changes the software of every block, some change the amp block, some change fx blocks, some add amps, some add fx. The changes are summarized in the release notes. If you go back through some release notes you can get the idea - so this is the kind of thing that you can be aware of with each Firmware - read the release notes. Then if you are onboard to try a new Firmware, first backup your unit's settings and presets. And keep copies of the Firmware files. It takes about 5 minutes, with Fractal Bot, to do an update. And maybe another 10 minutes to copy a bank. So you can go back to a Firmware if you have presets that sound good in it.
An idea (If this is wrong someone please correct me) is to leave one bank with files that have settings congenial with an earlier Firmware, while another bank is the one you make updates to, to better suit the newer firmware. Lets say that you keep your original presets in bank B and back that up. Then load those same presets into bank A. Then in 5 minutes time you can be playing with either of the two most recent firmwares.
Again, if that didn't make sense, sorry, but its way late at night here.
But to me this means it just takes 5 minutes to travel back and forth. To do it that fast, you need to dedicate a bank to the earlier firmware, because on my computer anyway, backing up and loading banks takes a little longer.
And with all the updating of Firmwares I've never had any errors in over 5 years of using Fractal products, so I've learned to feel very safe about it; but just remember to always follow the instructions, never turn the unit off except when instructed (and I always have my unit connected to a battery backup), and I typically wait a little more than 5 seconds before turning my unit back on after its automatically reprogrammed. (and it will be automatically reprogrammed, and indicate that it is occurring on the unit's screen, after a Firmware is loaded each time; so don't blow a couple thousand dollars by doing anything while this is happening, except maybe checking on the baby, or inspecting your nails).
[Rex, thanks for clarifying the use of the Modeling Version feature still in XL, which I can see is useful in this regard, and even though it still seems to require those who don't use Latest to go preset by preset to update the modeling version setting when ready, I can sure see that a touring artist would love that feature so they can have the best of both worlds. And thank you Cliff for doing all that extra work to take it out of the Mark I/II and keep it in recent units (I searched for the thread when this was announced and wasn't able to find it - my answer, although I wasn't entirely clear on it, is still necessary to comprehend, e.g. because of the recent speaker overdrive functions in use presently in the amp block, which are not restored by use of earlier Modeling Versions: As in: "...NOTE: This change affects all modeling versions as the algorithm is outside the archived modeling functions. I.e. if you change the Modeling Version parameter you will NOT get the old speaker overdrive algorithm..." - but that didn't apply to the question I was answering ]
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