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Axe-Fx II "Ares" Rev 2.00 Firmware Release

ChainOfThought

Experienced
I’ve only messed with the engl savage and diezel vh4 (the highest gain version I think) models enough to draw conclusions on. I also use one of the lower gain diezel models and then maybe the shiva or something, but I just don’t play a whole lot of stuff with those at the moment.

The engl I think sounded fairly similar, but felt better especially in the low end. The VH4 is one that I’ve always been amazed by the low end punch but disappointed by just about everything else. With no tweaking at all I booted up into 2.0 and fell in love with the diezel model. The top end was just so much more clear and defined, the low end lost no amount of that amazing punch and the whole thing just sounded and felt so much better. I don’t think I wound up really tweaking anything, but I might at some point just because it’s what I do.

Should also note I play through a matrix and a Vader 2x12 so I’m not commenting on anything related to frfr or the cab block interaction.
 

ChainOfThought

Experienced
which diezel model are u using blue/silver 2/3/4?
i need to give that amp another shot
I’m pretty certain I went with silver 4 but when I go to practice later this week I can let you know. I like to use it for more of a big impact type of high gain...the engl is my go to and works better for tighter riffs and more aggressive palm muting. The diezel is just a huge kick in the chest haha. Before this latest firmware though I never could get it to where I liked it...always had this odd plastic sort of character to it that didn’t seem to stack up to other models.
 

indeloon85

Inspired
Question,

Not being critical, but wondering if there's something wrong with the 1959SLP Treble model. It seems a bit more "farty" than i remember.
 

symphx

Fractal Fanatic
I tried, I had to tweak a lot, Im rolling back to retest, to see if its just my ears that day or if I would tweak the same presets. I was quite happy prior, and dont want to tweak like crazy for another 3 months.
 

Floge

Member
I tried, I had to tweak a lot, Im rolling back to retest, to see if its just my ears that day or if I would tweak the same presets. I was quite happy prior, and dont want to tweak like crazy for another 3 months.
I had the same experience. Lost a lot of bass-end on many presets and they sound kinda "fizzy" to me now :/ Is it possible to just install the previous version or do I need to do a wipe or something first?


Edit: I feel stupid but I was using wrong settings on my interface which caused the tone to suck. I had played through a cab and forgotten to change a setting when I switched back to my monitors. Line/instrument selection was wrong and now it sounds as amazing as always or probably even better, lol! <3
 
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Black Bitch

Fractal Fanatic
I had the same experience. Lost a lot of bass-end on many presets and they sound kinda "fizzy" to me now :/ Is it possible to just install the previous version or do I need to do a wipe or something first?
You can just install the 1.03 version and it will be like before.
 

solo-act

Fractal Fanatic
Gigs with Ares 2.0 went fine. Everything felt more responsive and sounded more realistic and detailed. I briefly checked presets beforehand (about 20 different amps): Vox amps sounded cleaner like they had less gain. I bumped gain on maybe 1 of those. That's about it apart from leveling presets in general (Marshall Plexi sounded louder than I remember). I have 4 low-pressure gigs this week so I can pay more attention.

Bottom line, everything sounded great in the mix through my own bi-amp system at a decent volume. Through a loud QSC array system at a festival it was big, detailed, and touch responsive. The Zeppelin tribute act had a III with FC16 and a couple beautiful 7-strings from a luthier in Poland (attached). We talked shop before his set. His tone out front was detailed, expressive and sounded great in the mix.

Nothing out of the ordinary, just the typical everyday impossible next-level tone/feel improvement that Cliff continues to do for 12+ years running...LOL

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Roland

Experienced
This afternoon I finally got around to installing and testing 2.0. My conclusion: more mid-range clarity on clean sounds. It really brings out that Telecaster bite. The impact is more welcome on some Amp types than others. My clean Dr Z Highway 66 sounds wonderful with no changes, whereas my cleanish Bludojai need a bit of work to adjust gain and tone. I can see how some people find they generally need more gain.
 

nambutio

Inspired
In my setup (Axe + Mesa 2: 90 + Real Cabs) Ares 1.03 didn't sound good!
The problem in my case was the Grid Clip which was shrill as well as the Speaker Compl (on or off)! Even adjusting was not good.

Ares 2.0 is just perfect !!! I feel the brutal difference when I play with the pick and the fingers!

Thanks so much Cliff! Today your company is the best in the world! Nobody treats your customers like you! Nobody !!!

Thanks, Sir !!!
A hug from Brazil
 

steadystate

Fractal Fanatic
I have wondered how changes to the amp modeling algorithms are handled.

Is there a common pool of library code that each amp model calls to for specific functions in addition to the code unique to each model? So changing one file affects multiple models? Would not each affected model need to be auditioned, tested, tweaked, retested, and finally approved? Sounds like a lot of work.

Or is each model is a totally complete algorithm separate from all others? Again, would not each changed model need to be auditioned, tested, tweaked, retested, and finally approved? Again, sounds like a lot of work.
 

symphx

Fractal Fanatic
I too would be curious what 'improvements' are actually made to 'all amps' by FAS. What is the intended outcome/consequence. It's hard to 'use my ears' on hundreds of patches that I cant a/b directly. One can start hearing things, or imagining things with subtle differences. Even different volumes, different guitars and different days can change what Im hearing. Just curious.

If Fas or anyone else can elaborate in general without giving away 'secrets' I would appreciate.
 
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