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Axe-Fx II "Ares" Rev 2.00 Firmware Release

Black Bitch

Fractal Fanatic
I made the same observations as Hubi and Mic. At least with Marshall type amps.
Additional to the more treble and less bass, it also feels as if the gain is lower than with Ares 1.03 (probably caused by the more dynamic response).

To me it's no "fire and forget update". Have to adjust my presets a bit (or more).
try to lower the Low End Cut. I use for the Mrashalls with ARES 2.0 just the 20. The lowest number and sounds great.
 

Lax

Inspired
I could barely try yesterday and it definitely sounded a little meaner on my recto preset, but I think something has changed in the input level since I felt unwanted distorsion, or maybe my cable is dying lol
 

Muad'zin

Power User
To the people who complain when they don’t hear a difference:
1 Your preset sucks
2 Your speakers suck
3 Your ears suck
4 Your playing sucks
I've not heard any difference whatsoever after every upgrade since first getting the Axe II when Q.4 was the latest firmware. I've not adjusted my presets since after any upgrade. I'm willing to admit that my ears suck. Or maybe I just don't care enough. It's also possible that you suffer from confirmation bias though. It's new, I did a lot of work/spend a lot of money to make it work, therefore it has to be better. The Gear Page is basically based on that principle.

I'll update soon once I have some free time. And most likely do nothing whatsoever to retweak my presets.
 

Roland

Experienced
To the people who complain when they don’t hear a difference:
1 Your preset sucks
2 Your speakers suck
3 Your ears suck
4 Your playing sucks
I've not heard any difference whatsoever after every upgrade since first getting the Axe II when Q.4 was the latest firmware. I've not adjusted my presets since after any upgrade. I'm willing to admit that my ears suck. Or maybe I just don't care enough. It's also possible that you suffer from confirmation bias though. It's new, I did a lot of work/spend a lot of money to make it work, therefore it has to be better. The Gear Page is basically based on that principle.
Something I learned years ago is that we each listen for different things. In the pre Quantum days there were releases which people raved about, and I thought there was little difference. Then came a release which really opened up the clean sounds, and the heavy metal merchants were saying that they heard nothing.
 
Thank you so much Cliff, and all who work so hard on all of these things. I can’t wait to install this tonight and try it out.
P.S. the FAS Skull Crusher is an amazing amp model. I smile every time I play through it!
 

don_joe

Experienced
I had to tweak a lot after the update. I would say that there's more than just a subtle change in the sound between FWs. I had to reduce input drive on the amps on all of the first few presets. I need more time to be able to figure the impovements.

Anyhow, a big thanks to FAS for still developing their older products.
 

Leise

New Member
Did anyone noticed that the Rectis are sound like shit after Ares 2.0?
Went Back to 1.03 and everything is ok.

By the way It´s fantastic and incredible that an update like 2-0 come out...
Thanks
 

mouzer

Member
...Just popping in to express my gratitude to Cliff and Fractal. Haven't spent too much time with the latest firmware so I can't attest to the differences but the fact that this "EOL" product is still getting any updates at all is amazing. Phenomenal dedication to the user, the advancement of tech, and the all around raising of the bar.

Thanks guys.
 

deathbyguitar

Experienced
Did anyone noticed that the Rectis are sound like shit after Ares 2.0?
Went Back to 1.03 and everything is ok.

By the way It´s fantastic and incredible that an update like 2-0 come out...
Thanks
I dunno. Recto 2 Red Modern is pretty much all I ever use and I think it sounds fine.
 

USMC_Trev

Fractal Fanatic
Something I learned years ago is that we each listen for different things. In the pre Quantum days there were releases which people raved about, and I thought there was little difference. Then came a release which really opened up the clean sounds, and the heavy metal merchants were saying that they heard nothing.
Exactly. This goes back to the whole thing about if you're not hearing a difference, then it stands to reason that the way your preset was built wasn't taking advantage of a part of the modeling algorithm that was affected by the changed by the update in the first place. Hence, no difference. For example if a change had a prominent effect on Recto type amps and all your go-to presets are based on Fenders, then you're not going to hear a difference. An extension of that theory is that if you don't regularly use that amp and then you go looking to hear the change, how can anyone claim to know what they're listening for vs. the player that has spend probably hundreds of hours in front of that particular model and can much better identify the subtle nuances that have been affected? It's all so highly subjective, and yet there are some people that will roll in here like a bull in a TV store and claim that the updates are worthless or they caused their "tone" (whatever that is - again highly subjective) to become worse and that they're rolling back or selling their unit and getting a Kemper. These are the people really crack me up.
 

Andrew Male

Experienced
The biggest changes have happened with my USAII++ preset. There are too much hiss and treble after updating. I had to reduce hi-cut from 10 to 5 kHz
That is strange, I haven't noticed that on my USAII++ presets. I have input gain set to 9-10 as well, with active pickups. I think a 5khz hi cut is fine TBH though.

I think it sounds more realistic personally, whether that's good or bad. The AC30 is definitely better to my ears. It's all subjective though.
 

Flopro

Member
Upgraded Friday, gigged on Satuday. Couldn't hear much change through my IEM's, but now that i've sat down and tweaked my amp settings again, i think it's a little clearer and a bit more bass, but any update is welcome!
 
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edo

Power User
Vendor
In the models I use (mostly ac30tb and tweed deluxe) I hear some “openness” which I like, but the attack seems to be way snappier in an artificial way, which I’m not sure I like. It almost sounds like I have a hard limited on. Will tweak some advanced parameters and see how it goes..
 
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