I sure hope you are correcthttp://forum.fractalaudio.com/axe-fx-ii-discussion/96382-im-just-going-leave-here-26.html#post1160180
Read that post #505 and then Cliff's response directly following it.
That was the very last comment Cliff made on the whole topic of pricing models (stripped down version at lower price, then sell add-on amp models later).
It almost sounds as if this idea was brought up, debated vigorously, and then in this very post Cliff made his decision NOT to do that.
Of course, I could be full of shit
Forgive me, I'm just hearing about this AX8 now, so maybe I'm behind the ball on this one....Pretty much all details of the FX8 have been posted:
Minimal details on the AX8
It is not an Axe-Fx. It won't be able to do two amps or two cabs. It won't have things like the Vocoder and other esoteric blocks. It's a stripped down floor version at an aggressive price.
It will have G3 modeling and user IR slots. It has two dual-core DSPs, one for amp modeling the other for effects. These DSPs are slower than the ones in the Axe-Fx so it won't be able to do two instance of amps.
There will be block compatibility between the Axe-Fx and the AX-8 meaning you can copy blocks from your Axe-Fx presets into the AX-8.
It has USB, XLR outs for FOH, 1/4 outputs for local monitoring and an FX loop. Four expression pedal inputs. AC powered, no wall-wart.
The problem is that we all have different needs and wants. I think FAS is approaching this in just the right way with different products to fit different people's requirements and/or financial constraints. I always play with an amp. I wouldn't want to pay more for an AX-8, assuming it's more expensive. I have no use for any of the amp, cab or mic simulations. The FX8 is the perfect for me. I've waited an extremely long time for an effects only system of this quality and couldn't be happier.Why Not make one multi-effect floorboard that does everything the Axe-FX does! Please make the board we need, want and are willing to pay for.
Kind regards Paul
The DSPs used in the Axe-Fx are far too costly and require exotic cooling that is not suitable for a floor application.Why Not make one multi-effect floorboard that does everything the Axe-FX does!
This instead of making an FX-8 with no speaker- or amp simmulation and is only suitable trought a guitar amp......
Or the AX8 wich is only suitable for studio, direct signal in mixer or inear? Ax8 With speaker and amp simmulation but Not like the Axe-fx.
It seams that double-amps and two speakercabs simmultanious is Not possible On the AX8.....You can only simulate one amp and one speaker on the same time...
Sometimes i play with an amp and sometimes i don't....
I don't want to take an Axe-fx and a midi-board. I just want one floorboard that does the same as the axe-fx.
What is behind all this? Is this a sales trick?
Why wouldn't be it possible to make a floorboard that does the same as the AXE-FX... Space? Mayby make the board slightly bigger, or make what ever adjustments are needed to do so. I don't need it to do what the mfc101 does, i just want the sound-(possibilities) of axe-fx in one board!
Please make the board we need, want and are willing to pay for.
Kind regards Paul
Agreed, the FX8 already pushes the limit of what I'm willing to spend on something that is on the ground (in beer's way) getting trodden on. Racks make me feel much safer haha!What you gain in "portability" you lose in safety. Although I'd never want anything on my pedal board to get wet, or be in the direct sunlight, I REALLY wouldn't want a $2,500 device to be in harm's way. I think being safely in a rack, away from the crowd, is a much safer place, than the floor.