Aw come on, the shaky cam is all the rage. LOL!
I got shaky head so i dont notice it.
Aw come on, the shaky cam is all the rage. LOL!
greiswig,
I set the cleans first. I look for the 'middle' value of the range on the db meter. I then do the same with the OD tones, looking for the *middle* of the range of spl db levels - not the transients. Just the 'mean' average of the range. That's the key. Not peaks.
I use the Matt Picone global boost for solos - 111 midi value for the "Boost" cc, then 127 midi value for the 'boost'. You actually are attenuating your output and then just un-attenuating it for the 'boost' so you never hit red and I've found his values are perfect. I have measured about an average of +6db boost using his suggestion. Search "Using Boosts" thread I started long ago and see the "Matman" post there.
Not quite what I meant, Scott, but thanks: what I meant was, do you find it useful to have clean and OD sounds at identical levels, or do you set one up differently because of the different dynamics available in each? I've got my own take on it, but I'd like to hear yours.
+3-6db is about where I like to have my boost, too, so that's good to hear.
Rex said:@Scott: I think greiswig is asking whether you go for identical average meter readings for every preset.
@Scott: I think greiswig is asking whether you go for identical average meter readings for every preset.
...which seems to kind of answer my question. The implication is that you "balance output" with a db meter from clean to OD. So set the output to 100db on a system on an OD sound, and try to get 100db also on cleans. Then a bump of 6db for leads.This is my process for balancing the output of different presets across the range of gain from the cleanest to the loudest OD.
?? No two presets alike? I must be missing something, amigo! ;-)No, no 2 presets ever end up anything alike at all. depending of course on the amount of drive and the amount of master volume per each amp but all of them are so different. just like in the real world with real analog amps.
A translation thingy again, I think.No, no 2 presets ever end up anything alike at all. depending of course on the amount of drive and the amount of master volume per each amp but all of them are so different. just like in the real world with real analog amps.
A translation thingy again, I think.
I gathered from your video that you do shoot for the same meter reading across all your patches. I thought that was the whole point—matching average output levels across your patches. If that's not the case, I need to erase my mental tape and have another look at your video.
I try to match the middle of the range each preset makes. For instance, if my clean 'baseline' preset is outputting 110db-120db... with strumming; the way I'd use that preset... then the median value is 115db. I then try to range my heavier tones that might go from 103db - 125db with transients (chugga chugga) hitting the top of the range, but the middle falling around 114-115db so that the perception is similar output levels; but that's the perception only.
(SNIP)I don't have to do any refinements because I know now where I need to set things in relation to other things volume wise.
I hear what you're saying. The way I read Scott's last post is, "Trust your ears. I only have to set levels once because I know how I need to fudge what the meter is telling me."Thanks, Scott...I guess it's that "where to set things in relation to other things" aspect of what you do that I'm wondering about. But maybe it's so intuitive/obvious to you in your own process that it's hard to explain.
Now that's funny!Remember that the final judge on all this beyond measurements and SPL is your ear. The measurements and process gets you in the ballpark. I find that I don't have to do any refinements because I know now where I need to set things in relation to other things volume wise.
redburst21 - if you sit your grandma down in front of your cab at +110db she'll either kill you or run away... or both! LOL.
Thanks, Scott...I guess it's that "where to set things in relation to other things" aspect of what you do that I'm wondering about. But maybe it's so intuitive/obvious to you in your own process that it's hard to explain.
I hear what you're saying. The way I read Scott's last post is, "Trust your ears. I only have to set levels once because I know how I need to fudge what the meter is telling me."