corpsetopheros
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thanx, rex, for the dephase explanation!
Cutting the highs doesn't change the resolution; lowering the resolution doesn't cut the highs.Its funny some are talking about resolution with cab IR's.:? I don't know about you but I'm always cutting the highs in the cab blocks substantially ....just MHO
You're welcome. I got lucky here in that this lends itself to a straightforward explanation. Some of the topics here don't.thanx, rex, for the dephase explanation!
So now the big question (for me) is should I go and buy cab pack 13 and 14, and the new OH v4 collection, OR, should I spend a few days with the thousands of IR's I've already bought from Fractal, ML, OH, etc and play with some dephase parameters ? lol
I ask that part if jest, but also part in truth.
Added a new mode to the “Character” controls in the Amp block. A Char Type of “Dynamic” engages an exciting new mode of tone control. This can be used to fatten or scoop the tone as a function of picking strength. For example, set the Type to Dynamic, Char Freq to 450.0, Char Q to 0.7 and Char Amt to 4.0. This will cause the tone to get fatter and thicker as you play hard but without getting honky when playing soft.
The Dynamic Character type is my new favorite. Cliff's suggested settings give a nice midrange push when you spank it. Also try higher frequencies at lower Q with negative Character Amount.
Okay here's my analysis and opinion on the de-phase parameter:
As the image suggests the green line is an alloy IR without de-phase. The red line is the same IR with de-phase at 5. The blue line is the same IR with de-phase on 10.
So essentially it evens out your IR. If you have a bad IR you can make it more usable by using de-phase. On the other hand if you have a good IR then I personally wouldn't advice you to use de-phase as it also removes the character of your IR. So at 10 it's almost like a Palmer PDI.
From an IR procuder point of view you will not see me using this feature. Don't get me wrong. It's a really useful tool and it can make many IRs sound better. The reason I wouldn't use it is that I spend a lot of time making sure that I have the best resolution for my IRs. When we start talking about evening out the IR graphs then it's similar to lowering the resolution of the IR.
I think this is a great future and many people will find it useful. I would assume in a live situation it's a miracle worker especially with FRFR setups. It "should" result in less ear fatigue.
After setting De-phase at 5, CPU increases (about 2%) when playing. When not playing, CPU is about the same.
Disregard the above. The CPU increase was caused by something else.
De-phase YES if it sounds better.
De-Phase NO if it doesn't.
Select a Preset (with higher CPU demand). Go to utility -> CPU screen. Wait (idle...) ... within 10 - 20 seconds the CPU jumps ca. 1,5 to 2% higher ... wait for longer ... after a while it decrease again ...
why do I need thousands or IR's ?why cant I just have 1 great IR of each of the cabs I want to use and tweak from there? to me the dephase is approaching this way of working . dialing in a IR to a preset rather than digging through 1000's of files trying to find a perfect match
Have you ever gone into the studio with your one real cab ? The options with mic placement, mic types etc can be pretty staggering. In order to simulate just a couple of mics, in a couple of placements requires a ton of IR's.
There is certainly a point where it gets silly, either with real mics or IR's, but to each his own how much time they want to spend chasing "perfection"
I've worked with guys who would mic up the cab and literally not touch it again for the entire recording session. I've also worked with guys who would change mics, positions etc for each track we laid down. Its basically the same mentality when it comes to IR's and presets
Some guys can pick a favorite IR and that is it. They stick that IR into all their patches and are set. Other guys want to tweak the IR for each and every patch, and these are the guys who probably would spend 3 days in the studio just playing with the mic positions. At least it is way cheaper to do it with IR's now and not on the studio clock lol
I wonder is de-phase might become a Cablab feature where you apply it once and save the IR. You could keep the feature on the AXE for experimentation purposes and when you find what you like you could apply it one and re-save the IR with the processing applied. Just a thought.
Would depend on whether the algorithm is applied to only the IR or to the product of the IR and the input signal to the block. Given there's continuous CPU use when you use the parameter, I'm guessing it's the latter, which would mean it can't be incorporated in to the IR.
But...total guess on my part.