Until recently I owned an incredibly beautiful sounding Shiva. I clearly hear my amp in that earlier Shiva Clean clip. The reverb was quite close. Shiva's Reverb on 6L6 is one of the lushest in the industry IMHO.
The thing is, and I hear nobody mention this anywhere here, or on other threads either is; There are two very different sounding versions of the Shiva. I owned the 6L6 version and the clean sound in that clip sounded much more like the Shiva 6L6 60 watt version. (See Bogner's website sound clips and you will understand the point I make).
I am curious, did Team FAS actually use a Shiva 6L6, or EL 34 80watt version in the Amp referenced and used in that on that clip? I think the clean on the actual 6L
is to die for. (I am not able to get it on my Chieftain and wish I still had Shiva) - Maybe AXE-II will give it back to me.............
By the way - that is holy grail stuff for me and it is soo cool to literally hear my amp chiming through that clip. Thanks, after hearing that, I am sold as well.
Until recently I owned an incredibly beautiful sounding Shiva. I clearly hear my amp in that earlier Shiva Clean clip. The reverb was quite close. Shiva's Reverb on 6L6 is one of the lushest in the industry IMHO.
The thing is, and I hear nobody mention this anywhere here, or on other threads either is; There are two very different sounding versions of the Shiva. I owned the 6L6 version and the clean sound in that clip sounded much more like the Shiva 6L6 60 watt version. (See Bogner's website sound clips and you will understand the point I make).
I am curious, did Team FAS actually use a Shiva 6L6, or EL 34 80watt version in the Amp referenced and used in that on that clip? I think the clean on the actual 6L
is to die for. (I am not able to get it on my Chieftain and wish I still had Shiva) - Maybe AXE-II will give it back to me.............
By the way - that is holy grail stuff for me and it is soo cool to literally hear my amp chiming through that clip. Thanks, after hearing that, I am sold as well.
Hey Sean, I like how much the tone cleans up with the volume knob roll-off. I'm continuously using my volume knob for tone changes and always wished that I could get a little bit cleaner when pulling the volume knob down on dirty patches. Do you feel like your getting a more pronounced and dynamic tone change (or cleanup of the tone) with a volume knob roll-off in the Axe II than you did with an Ultra? If so, I guess that would be attributable to the impedance matching?
Thanks for posting clips!
it was the Anniversary model in the Axe-FX 10.0 firmware, according to the Bognor site the anniversary model used KT88'sI believe it's the Anniversary Edition of the Shiva that Cliff modeled.
Scott can confirm this as well, but the II seems to be even more responsive to volume changes on the guitar than before.
To be honest - this does not sound good. It actually sounds like a wooly emulation of a recto type amp... sorry to say but thats how it sounds. Dont rip my neck off... just honest opinion... I was referring to the post #211 (I think Scot Peterson clip) but maybe not...
Scott can confirm this as well, but the II seems to be even more responsive to volume changes on the guitar than before.
To be honest - this does not sound good. It actually sounds like a wooly emulation of a recto type amp... sorry to say but thats how it sounds. Dont rip my neck off... just honest opinion... I was referring to the post #211 (I think Scot Peterson clip) but maybe not...
I agree it sounds a bit muddy to me also. BUT I can hear the potential for an awesome recto sound in there. IMO if you put a boost in front of that and perhaps bump the presence up a bit you should end up with a pretty brutal sounding recto tone. I think it's all up to the way it's dialled in. And remember also, different people have different ideas about what 'hi gain' is.
Cheers,
Steve
I will be doing an indepth review of the II once it is available. I don't want a) folks angry at me; b) folks angry at Fractal. Suffice to say that in referace to what JJ is saying here - by leaps and bounds. Notes don't just sustain; notes bloom. It's as interactive as even the absolute best amps I've ever used now. VVT is the *real* deal, only better because you can dial everything as fast (or faster) than any amp and there is really no end to how you can individualize it at your leisure and/or whim. It's like someone handing you a treasure box and the key. If you can work with the Standard or Ultra; the "II" will blow your mind. It's like going from a frozen steak to the very finest cut fresh. It was 'good' now, it's literally making you laugh out loud from joy. No BS.
I'm not a Recto guy; that's just how *I* dialed it. I...that is the problem at this point for dropping any clips...folks clamor for clips; but they don't want clips. They want the clips THEY want, the way THEY want them...
I'm not a Recto guy; that's just how *I* dialed it. I put the disclaimer in the original post; that is the problem at this point for dropping any clips... what i want isn't the 'limit' of what you can do, nor representative of what you can do. So the point being folks clamor for clips; but they don't want clips. They want the clips THEY want, the way THEY want them. I'm not a jukebox.
Hi Scott,
My post wasn't a knock at you at all, I was trying to point out everyone has a different idea of how *something* should sound, and the main point I was trying to put across was that I could really hear a recto in that clip and it sounded good! Just not how I would personally dial it
I'm loving all the clips, they all sound fantastic and I can't wait for more!
Cheers,
Steve
Steve, no knock perceived and not being defensive (and hope it doesn't come off that way).
Just talking factually is all.
Just talking fractually is all.
didn't save it but it is easy to recreate. I tool the high landron preset, switch the tube screamer out for fuzz, moved it in front of the phaser, lowered the drive, increased the level, thickened up the plexi +lowered the gain. Thats all. but yes, I'll refine it and share it.
Here's another:
www.fractalaudio.com/Documents/jcm800.mp3
Here is a very quick example of the shiva clean w/ a ambient verb. I only had 5min to dial it in a play something. I'll do something better later.
Redone w/ new cab and darker verb