Well said KevinP.
For a lot of music and acts (not all), the lead vocal is the primary focus of the mix. And if the vocals are on wedges, they trump anything else.
In my experience, vocals only in the wedges and a good backline makes it easier to get the stage mix right and the FOH right. Less complicated.
Phew... it's threads like this that make me so glad we're entirely self-contained, all direct and all on in-ears. Super quick, super slick and super consistent(once all the hard work is done in pre-production of course!)
in my monitors I like:
- a ton of drums and bass guitar cos that's what I lock-in to
- a little lead vocal so I have the song's 'landmarks'
- no keys cos he's next to me on stage and I get enough of what I need of him from his own monitoring
- no David Cross cos if I was stood in the car park I bet I could still fkn hear him... ahhhh ! ! !
- no me cos I have my 4x12 cabs and if I'm stood in the car park of a different venue in a different country I could still most triumphantly hear them rockin-and-a-rollin.. yaaaayyyy ! ! !
uhhm yea. Why wouldn't you want to be prepared? Why wouldn't you practice in a setup as close to what you are going to be using, so there are no suprises, no stress, and then it's about entertaining instead of production and you can enjoy your gig.so the killer thing then is your band's preparedness..
you know what you want, know how to make it work for you, know what to expect..
not everyone is quite that switched on.. lmao
uhhm yea. Why wouldn't you want to be prepared? Why wouldn't you practice in a setup as close to what you are going to be using, so there are no suprises, no stress, and then it's about entertaining instead of production and you can enjoy your gig.
So yea, we are prepared. I also have a Marshall 412 setup for rooms that allow and I also have an IEM setup for when we bring our own PA FOH and Digital board. We also solicit the venue and assess long before we play it so we can decide on which setup we are using there.
If others don't consider any of this then perhaps they should? Being prepared has allowed us many completely issue free shows.
I'm just in a local covers band. We have no rider, so crew, and no sound engineer. We do it all ourselves or occasionally there is a house system and disc jockey running it.
One of the gigs I play uses a PreSonus Studio Live mixer. You install an app on your iPad and control your own mix. It's slick, and it really works.
One of the gigs I play uses a PreSonus Studio Live mixer. You install an app on your iPad and control your own mix. It's slick, and it really works.
Yeah. My band's PA has this and it rocks. It's also beyond awesome to get individual stereo IEM mixes for everyone in the band. \m/One of the gigs I play uses a PreSonus Studio Live mixer. You install an app on your iPad and control your own mix. It's slick, and it really works.
Being using that for over a year now, but most recently with stage monitors removed and the band going all-wireless IEM's. We use 5 (of 6) AUX feeds for individual mixes, each of which can have FAT Channel processing and Effects applied.One of the gigs I play uses a PreSonus Studio Live mixer. You install an app on your iPad and control your own mix. It's slick, and it really works.
Yeah. My band's PA has this and it rocks. It's also beyond awesome to get individual stereo IEM mixes for everyone in the band. \m/
Have a small wedding gig next week in a relatively small room--we are using a new sound guy we've never dealt with before and when I let him know that I wanted to dun direct from my AXL this is what he replied back with:
As for the guitar going direct to the board for its only on stage monitoring,that usually is not a good idea. Without a stage amp to balance the live sound you would be relying on the vocal monitors for both guitar and vocals to fill the stage, and since they will only be facing the band It may cause feedback and actually have to be louder than the vocals to be heard. The guitar pickups facing directly into the monitors speakers and horns usually causes feedback and eq problems. Guitar processors, even though they may sound great in the studio or other controlled settings, are still using speaker simulators which are just different programed eq settings to make them sound like popular amps, There's still nothing like a real mic'd amp to pick up traveling sound waves, due to air moving from the speaker at different levels from each guitarists own unique style of playing. Add in room ambiance stage sound mic placement etc.etc..
I don't want to sound like a dick, but I also don't want to run one of my 100w tube amps choked down to whisper levels. I already let him know that I would bring my own stage monitor. Suggestions on what to say back?
Being using that for over a year now, but most recently with stage monitors removed and the band going all-wireless IEM's. We use 5 (of 6) AUX feeds for individual mixes, each of which can have FAT Channel processing and Effects applied.
For next gig we are going to similar setup with X32 Producer - since BL wanted to use HIS new mixer, so mine goes back to storage.