mortega76 said:I tried messing with this feature but just didn't hear anything using my headphones... would it be better if it was more "exaggerated"? What does everyone think?
Me neither!javajunkie said:mortega76 said:I tried messing with this feature but just didn't hear anything using my headphones... would it be better if it was more "exaggerated"? What does everyone think?
Too tell you the truth, I don't even know what it really does!
mortega76 said:Me neither!javajunkie said:mortega76 said:I tried messing with this feature but just didn't hear anything using my headphones... would it be better if it was more "exaggerated"? What does everyone think?
Too tell you the truth, I don't even know what it really does!
But if I could actually hear what it did then maybe I would know how to use it...
mitch said:I won't vote yet, because I'm still trying to figure out how or if I want to use it. I can definitely hear it though. I could be completely wrong, but it sounds to me like it mixes in some pre-cab signal and the frequency control adjusts a hi cut filter for that signal.
I was playing around with the Uberschall model last night and experimented with the air feature to add in some fizzy "hair" to the sound for lack of a better term. I forget my settings, but I kept going back and forth trying to figure out whether I liked it or not. There are multiple ways to brighten or darken the amp sound, so I'm still debating how to best approach it.
I'd love to hear some more guidance from Cliff or a tip of the week on what it does and the intended usage.
AndrewSimon said:I can only guess.... It creates a pre-delay by "amplitude notching" the impulse in a narrow
bandwidth around 1KHz (adjustable to 3 KHz)
Since the impulse is relatively short to begin with you can not create huge pre-delays
but you could do it with the reverb block instead.
:?:
Of course I could be completely off
Jay Mitchell said:I have to ask, "Why is there air?"
:lol:
Cool thanks for that Cliff... does that mean that if I crank up my input it will be more pronounced as well? I still can't really hear it via my headphones... maybe somehow making it "active"? Maybe?FractalAudio said:Air is nothing more than low-pass filtered direct signal mixed with the processed signal. Sometimes adding some Air can help remove the boxiness. I was unaware that the PDI-05 did the same thing but I'm not surprised someone else thought of this too. You typically need to set the Air Freq above 3 kHz before the effect is noticeable. I like it around 3500 or so. It adds a little sizzle to high-gain tones and removes that boxy sound.
So it is written. So it shall be done.Guitar-Tiz said:The master has spoken. Now let it be Wiki'ed.
I would suggest checking your signal chain (all the way across and to your headphones). There is no way this parameter cannot be heard. Sure, it's subtle, but not subtle enough to not be heard. Are you sure your cab sims are activated, that the cab block is in the chain, etc.?mortega76 said:Cool thanks for that Cliff... does that mean that if I crank up my input it will be more pronounced as well? I still can't really hear it via my headphones... maybe somehow making it "active"? Maybe?
FractalAudio said:Air is nothing more than low-pass filtered direct signal mixed with the processed signal. Sometimes adding some Air can help remove the boxiness. I was unaware that the PDI-05 did the same thing but I'm not surprised someone else thought of this too. You typically need to set the Air Freq above 3 kHz before the effect is noticeable. I like it around 3500 or so. It adds a little sizzle to high-gain tones and removes that boxy sound.
That's because there's always nonzero group delay in the speaker IR, even if it has been processed with a minimum phase transform.AndrewSimon said:No delay what so ever?
Not even a little phase?
I ask because on clean tones it seems to take off some high end.
Very cool....thanks for the clarification.FractalAudio said:Air is nothing more than low-pass filtered direct signal mixed with the processed signal. Sometimes adding some Air can help remove the boxiness. I was unaware that the PDI-05 did the same thing but I'm not surprised someone else thought of this too. You typically need to set the Air Freq above 3 kHz before the effect is noticeable. I like it around 3500 or so. It adds a little sizzle to high-gain tones and removes that boxy sound.
Mo, just to better hear it....take a high gain amp, crank up the highs and presence, then set the air to 100% and sweep the air frequency. As you sweep the frequency up, you'll definitely start hearing the raw buzzy amp tone coming through. I'm still trying to figure out how to balance this with the other tone control options for my own taste, but it definitely can have a strong effect at the extremes.mortega76 said:I still can't really hear it via my headphones... maybe somehow making it "active"? Maybe?