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I don't own an Axe FX and don't know anyone who has one, so I can't try it for myself unfortunately. Honestly I'd love to try out the tone matching capabilities.
I thought Fractal has a 2 weeks return policy!
I don't own an Axe FX and don't know anyone who has one, so I can't try it for myself unfortunately. Honestly I'd love to try out the tone matching capabilities.
Well, the constant then in your attempts happens to be...First off, apologies if I've come across as a troll, that is not my intention.
The reality is that I've spent the past year trying to replicate that tone with a number of amp modellers and have been unsuccessful with each one.
Again, looking for constants, none of those people would be Andy Summers at that specific moment in time, right?Also, I have watched a number of YouTube videos covering the song, and no one has even come close to getting that tone in my opinion.
Mmm. Fractal has a really excellent return policy. You can try this for yourself. But it'll never turn you in to Andy. There's only one Andy. And he loves his Axe-FX II AFAIK.I don't want a preset. I want someone on here to nail that tone and thereby prove to me that it is indeed possible to get it, which will be of great help in determining if Axe FX (and its tone matching capability) is the right product for me.
i didnt missed that part but what you did in the past year is irrevalent because i am questioning what you are doing right now not past year and not about what you did with other modelers. and i think you missunderstood the tone matching. it is just a eq analysis just as @unix-guy said so it does not capture the whole tone for you it just matches the EQ with your own tone so what you should try is the amp models itself not tone match blockI don't own an Axe FX and don't know anyone who has one, so I can't try it for myself unfortunately. Honestly I'd love to try out the tone matching capabilities.
As for me being "too lazy", clearly you missed the part where I mentioned that I've been trying to replicate this tone with a number of amp modellers over the past year.
The closest attempt (all things considered) which isn't even that close I have found is in the video below:
What is this 95% match you speak of? If you're referring to the Soundcloud sample or the video I posted, then I'm sorry, it is nowhere near that close.Let's say you can do it. Then what? Why do you need 100% tone match and why 95% is not enough? Are you going to buy an Axe-Fx and play that song over and over for the rest of your life in your room? Because believe me, nobody else cares about it around you!
And yes, it can be done! Now get that axe-fx and start learning how to use it. Spend a lot of time with it and do that 100% tone-match!
Without intent to offend, there's nothing special about the tone in the original video and everything special about the player in the video. A good bit of the swirlyness is probably from the isolation rather than anything to do with the recording. It sounds like Andy Summers playing his usual Fender guitar into his usual Fender amp with his usual readily available effects. Whatever inability to come up with something similar requires a long hard look at the fingers playing the guitar, not the equipment on the other end.
5 minutes of tweaking Matt's preset to change the amp and cab to something that sounds closer to me (for the record he was demonstrating complex harmony changes with a footswitch, not how close he could match this tone). Is it 100%? No, but I bet it'd be pretty close in the hands of the fella that wrote it, I just don't have that signature touch of Mr. Summers. I didn't feel like rigging up the footswitching of Matt's preset for the harmony, so I just tracked a harmony on the intro for effect. In hindsight I should have made it more wet and played a lot more dynamically, but oh well it still sounds pretty good to me. There's a lot of room sound in the recording which is tricky to match, but if I was as passionate about this tone as you are I would imagine the details would be pretty straightforward to sort out from here.
Reasonably close, but I think you'll agree, no cigar. Please keep at it.Want proof? Here is someone getting Eddie Van Halen's Brown Sound replicated perfectly who isn't him and can't play anywhere near like him (the muting in the intro is all wrong). By your logic, this should not be possible because he sounds like Eddie and doubtfully like himself.
As you say: reasonably close, but no cigar.Here is someone getting Eddie Van Halen's Brown Sound replicated perfectly
Exact recreation of a complex tone—especially a low-gain tone that reveals the intricacies of distortion, dynamics and playing—is an involved process of research, analysis and experimentation, for all the reasons that @barhrecords mentions above. A talented chef has to work hard to recreate someone else's perfect dish, even if he has the best ingredients in the world. Don't be surprised if people aren't willing to invest a lot of time on what you admit to be your own personal and spiritual development.Please keep at it.
Can you prove it? I'm interested to hear.I can replicate the tone in Every Breath You Take, but not Message in a Bottle, and they are so very different indeed. Words cannot describe how frustrating this is.