FM9: G66 availability & waitlist

It's the same everywhere, I want to buy an RME Babyface also, the importer indicates that he doesn't expect any untis this year in Europe due to chip shortages!
 
It's a worldwide chips shortage.
Cars can't get produced because of chip shortage. Tesla developed different parallel versions of their mainboards so they could still go on with production using different chips.
Lateyly Apple stopped the production of iPads, so they have more chips left for their iPhones.
Besides chips other part supply chains are affected as well.
It's everywhere, it's not a Fractal's problem, nor G66's.
 
666was999 said:
It's a worldwide chips shortage.
Cars can't get produced because of chip shortage. Tesla developed different parallel versions of their mainboards so they could still go on with production using different chips.
Lateyly Apple stopped the production of iPads, so they have more chips left for their iPhones.
Besides chips other part supply chains are affected as well.
It's everywhere, it's not a Fractal's problem, nor G66's.
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I’m ok with waiting, but can’t my plan spare guitar gear cash spending until I get a realistic Europe delivery date. It’s the lack of communication that is the issue, even “it will be at least July” is useful news.
 
Exactly.
Considering that the equipment is already on the US market, the lack of any information about access in Europe effectively discourages waiting. But maybe that's how it is supposed to be. Or maybe this is to encourage you to buy FM3 or FXIII.
 
blaggers said:
I’m ok with waiting, but can’t my plan spare guitar gear cash spending until I get a realistic Europe delivery date. It’s the lack of communication that is the issue, even “it will be at least July” is useful news.
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I guess nobody knows a date. They for sure hope for QI or QII, but it could get QIII or QIV as well.
 
Timbehindthewall said:
There is definitely a shortage, but the quad cortex, Kemper, line 6 are still available....it might make people reconsider.
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A few might reconsider, but when you compare Fractal (even FM3, not only the FM9) to other similar like Helix, FMs still feel like the way to go. A friend of mine is tempting me to go for the Helix, but no, thanks.

But I have to admit, subscribing sometime in half of September for the FM9 here in Europe and seeing the information about delivery dates, I am seriously thinking about going straight for the FX III.
 
james_val said:
A few might reconsider, but when you compare Fractal (even FM3, not only the FM9) to other similar like Helix, FMs still feel like the way to go. A friend of mine is tempting me to go for the Helix, but no, thanks.

But I have to admit, subscribing sometime in half of September for the FM9 here in Europe and seeing the information about delivery dates, I am seriously thinking about going straight for the FX III.
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I also thoughed about that but for live purposes you'd have to pay 2700 for the FX3 plus an additional 500 for the fc6 or even 700 for the fc12 which is beyond crazy considering the expected price for the fm9 or comparable products. A fair move would be to make special offers for everyone on the fm9 wait-list and lower the prices.
 
Timbehindthewall said:
I also thoughed about that but for live purposes you'd have to pay 2700 for the FX3 plus an additional 500 for the fc6 or even 700 for the fc12 which is beyond crazy considering the expected price for the fm9 or comparable products.
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With this being said, you 100% hit the reason why it is not sitting on my desk (yet). And it is not like you can get the FCs used in a good condition for a better price, the used one offered are usually the very same price or just a few euros off, so nothing there as well.
 
Timbehindthewall said:
A fair move would be to make special offers for everyone on the fm9 wait-list and lower the prices.
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Prices ... would be enough for me to cost as much as in the USA.
For clarity:
USA (3-year warranty) - EUROPA (3-year warranty)
FXIII MKII - 2,529$ - 3103$ (+ 22.7%)
FXIII MKII TURBO - 2,730$ - 3,391$ v (+ 24.2%)
FM3 - 1109$ - 1551$ (+ 39.9%)
FM9 - 1760$ - 2300$ (+ 30.7%)

In Germany we have 19% VAT on sales. And in New Hampshire I think tax = 0.

Despite this, I do not understand the prices of FM3.
The final price of FM9 is not there yet, because it has already increased by 150 Euro from the first mention.

DSP Quad Cortex - 1,849$ - 2,068$ (+ 11.8%)

One thing you have to remember. You can see that Fractal is constantly looking for new, better and more efficient solutions (ver.19 for FXIII). That's why I'm not surprised that its devices are the most expensive. Do you know how many QC users are waiting for any software update?
And everyone has to answer the question whether they want to pay that much and, above all, whether they want to wait that long for delivery.
 
I guess in the end it comes down to the question why announce a very desirable product while knowing you can only serve a tiny fraction of interested customers while being aware that the demand simply can't be served for a period of maybe over a year...
 
Timbehindthewall said:
I guess in the end it comes down to the question why announce a very desirable product while knowing you can only serve a tiny fraction of interested customers while being aware that the demand simply can't be served for a period of maybe over a year...
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I am wondering about that too. I'm still looking for sense in this.
 
Mystik said:
Prices ... would be enough for me to cost as much as in the USA.
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Mystik said:
For clarity:
USA (3-year warranty) - EUROPA (3-year warranty)
FXIII MKII - 2,529$ - 3103$ (+ 22.7%)
FXIII MKII TURBO - 2,730$ - 3,391$ v (+ 24.2%)
FM3 - 1109$ - 1551$ (+ 39.9%)
FM9 - 1760$ - 2300$ (+ 30.7%)

In Germany we have 19% VAT on sales. And in New Hampshire I think tax = 0.

Despite this, I do not understand the prices of FM3.
The final price of FM9 is not there yet, because it has already increased by 150 Euro from the first mention.

DSP Quad Cortex - 1,849$ - 2,068$ (+ 11.8%)
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Now this is interesting. I expected the price in Europe to be higher since they produce those in the US (or don’t they?) and there is a duty which really kicks some prices up (been comparing some Made in US Fenders and the prices sometimes were almost about 30 to 50% both in shop or bought in the US and sent to Europe), but that does not quite explain the higher difference for the FM3 at all - I would expect these to be approximately same for all their products.

Timbehindthewall said:
I guess in the end it comes down to the question why announce a very desirable product while knowing you can only serve a tiny fraction of interested customers while being aware that the demand simply can't be served for a period of maybe over a year...
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I believe that nobody expected the semiconductor shortage to be such a problem even now.
 
james_val said:
Now this is interesting. I expected the price in Europe to be higher since they produce those in the US (or don’t they?) and there is a duty which really kicks some prices up (been comparing some Made in US Fenders and the prices sometimes were almost about 30 to 50% both in shop or bought in the US and sent to Europe), but that does not quite explain the higher difference for the FM3 at all - I would expect these to be approximately same for all their products.
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I guess there is no US electronics duty. But I'm not a specialist.
 
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