electronpirate
Axe-Master
Sigh.
You guys and your knee-jerk reactions defending Fractal are facepalm-worthy. 3 out of 4 of the first responses are blind defenses of Fractal. I love Fractal as much as the next guy - I've had an Ultra, a II, an FX8, and an MFC - but Fractal is not perfect, I'm sure they screw up from time to time like most other humans. It might be good to understand more about the situation before blindly rushing to Fractal's defense. It's a theme that's repeated time and again on this forum.
You guys and your knee-jerk reactions defending Fractal are facepalm-worthy. 3 out of 4 of the first responses are blind defenses of Fractal. I love Fractal as much as the next guy - I've had an Ultra, a II, an FX8, and an MFC - but Fractal is not perfect, I'm sure they screw up from time to time like most other humans. It might be good to understand more about the situation before blindly rushing to Fractal's defense. It's a theme that's repeated time and again on this forum.
All of this is a blatant lie. Stranger still is that this transpired back in May. On May 4th the OP requested an RMA and was granted one on May 5th. The unit was received on May 11th. On May 12th his refund was granted. Here is the transaction:
05/12/2015 10:51AM CREDIT $2,499.95 MasterCard ************9259
AuthCode 90531Z
TransID 7171637029
The OP then contacted us saying he hadn't received his refund. We told him that this is common as the credit card companies tend to sit on refunds so they can collect interest (the issuing bank is Citibank and they are among the worst in this regard). He said he would wait seven days and we never heard from him again.
Not perfect? Mere Human???
Oh wow - how insensitive ;-)
In all seriousness though - It sure sounds like another stab at Fractal.
Yes it does, and Cliff debunked it nicely. My issue is that it seems to be very difficult to post a beef about Fractal on here - even a legitimate one - without calling down hellfire upon oneself. In order to complain about something, you must be a longtime forum member, with a suitably high post count, and you must express your complaint in the politest of terms, couched in effusive praise ("I absolutely adore all things Fractal, BUT I have this one teensy issue, please don't be mad..."). Noobs regularly get flamed around here for violating these edicts, and I think it's something we could improve upon.
On an unrelated note, I am currently on a diving trip in Cozumel, and the mellowness of my vibe is un-harsh-able. If my latest post brings about a round of additional vitriol, the margarita-induced haze may delay my responses somewhat.
I have sweet memories of the pina coladas in Cozumel. It's a miracle I even have memories at all.
You have a point. I also have a feeling that the community has become pretty brutal about any negative oppinion expressed these days. Regardless of valid or invalid.Yes it does, and Cliff debunked it nicely. My issue is that it seems to be very difficult to post a beef about Fractal on here - even a legitimate one - without calling down hellfire upon oneself. In order to complain about something, you must be a longtime forum member, with a suitably high post count, and you must express your complaint in the politest of terms, couched in effusive praise ("I absolutely adore all things Fractal, BUT I have this one teensy issue, please don't be mad..."). Noobs regularly get flamed around here for violating these edicts, and I think it's something we could improve upon.
On an unrelated note, I am currently on a diving trip in Cozumel, and the mellowness of my vibe is un-harsh-able. If my latest post brings about a round of additional vitriol, the margarita-induced haze may delay my responses somewhat.
Yes it does, and Cliff debunked it nicely. My issue is that it seems to be very difficult to post a beef about Fractal on here - even a legitimate one - without calling down hellfire upon oneself. In order to complain about something, you must be a longtime forum member, with a suitably high post count, and you must express your complaint in the politest of terms, couched in effusive praise ("I absolutely adore all things Fractal, BUT I have this one teensy issue, please don't be mad..."). Noobs regularly get flamed around here for violating these edicts, and I think it's something we could improve upon.
On an unrelated note, I am currently on a diving trip in Cozumel, and the mellowness of my vibe is un-harsh-able. If my latest post brings about a round of additional vitriol, the margarita-induced haze may delay my responses somewhat.
i still say that most minority or opposing viewpoints here are addressed thoughtfully (yes, I'm defending; call that knee-jerk if you wish, it's just a viewpoint that's different from yours). Sure, some folks jump on others once in a while, but that happens everywhere....have a feeling that the community has become pretty brutal about any negative oppinion expressed these days. Regardless of valid or invalid.
This was not a legitimate beef with anything Fractal has done....
If this is your poster thread for people behaving badly I think you've chosen poorly. Maybe it's the margaritas?
Never said this particular beef was legit, never said Fractal did anything wrong...only that it would be worth asking a few questions and understanding the situation before we break out the pitchforks. Reading comprehension not a strong suit? At least I have the margaritas as my excuse...
until almost 2 firmwares later, Cliff himself admitted making a mistake and that all the time the algorithms indeed weren't working as intended.