Axe-Fx III Firmware 22.00 Release

With the new Dynacabs in the firmware does anyone know if the Fractal AxeFXIII non-turbo can use the Celestion DSR's and is it worth it? Or should I just buy the standard IR's?

Thank you!
 
Maybe this is one for @FractalAudio

I made a basic preset with 2 Rev Amps in parallel, a Dyna Cab Recto Slant in 2 slots with different mics, chorus, delay & reverb. I realize I can use Scene Manager, but when I switched to scene 2, all my choices & settings of amp & effects remained the same (except for bypass states, which I don't care about, since that's what I'll be changing in the various scenes), except for the cabs, which reverted to the defaults of Factory 1, #1.

I've never built a preset from scratch before, so I don't know if this is expected behavior or not. Why doesn't it retain all my initial choices?
 
TSJMajesty said:
when I switched to scene 2, all my choices & settings of amp & effects remained the same (except for bypass states, which I don't care about, since that's what I'll be changing in the various scenes), except for the cabs, which reverted to the defaults of Factory 1, #1.
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Did you forget to change the channels when you changed scenes? Review pgs. 9 and 43 in the manual maybe?
 
TSJMajesty said:
Maybe this is one for @FractalAudio

I made a basic preset with 2 Rev Amps in parallel, a Dyna Cab Recto Slant in 2 slots with different mics, chorus, delay & reverb. I realize I can use Scene Manager, but when I switched to scene 2, all my choices & settings of amp & effects remained the same (except for bypass states, which I don't care about, since that's what I'll be changing in the various scenes), except for the cabs, which reverted to the defaults of Factory 1, #1.

I've never built a preset from scratch before, so I don't know if this is expected behavior or not. Why doesn't it retain all my initial choices?
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Sounds like the channel changed in the cab block when you changed scenes.
 
Cameron Chehreh said:
With the new Dynacabs in the firmware does anyone know if the Fractal AxeFXIII non-turbo can use the Celestion DSR's and is it worth it? Or should I just buy the standard IR's?

Thank you!
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Celestion's DSR are not the same as Fractal's Dyna-Cabs, so whether it's a Mk I, II or III doesn't matter. Their software requires their plugin, which has nothing to do with Fractal.

The Turbo is not required to run Dyna-Cabs. All three III units are capable of running the same firmware.
 
Greg Ferguson said:
Did you forget to change the channels when you changed scenes? Review pgs. 9 and 43 in the manual maybe?
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Rock Chalk said:
Sounds like the channel changed in the cab block when you changed scenes.
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I didn't touch channels, but just to be sure, I built the same preset from scratch again, and yes, when I switched to scene TWO, everything stayed the same this time. But when I switched to scene THREE and 8, only the Cab channel changed to B. It remained on channel A (where I'd loaded the Recto Slant Dyna cab into 2 slots) on all other scenes.

This doesn't seem right. I mean, it's easy enough to RECTO-fy (see what I did there?), but seems like a bug to me.

Btw, I picked effects that were different from the ones that first load by default. They also remained the same, and didn't change channels.
 
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TSJMajesty said:
I didn't touch channels, but just to be sure, I built the same preset from scratch again, and yes, when I switched to scene TWO, everything stayed the same this time. But when I switched to scene THREE and 8, only the Cab channel changed to 2. It remained on channel 1 (where I'd loaded the Recto Slant Dyna cab into 2 slots) on all other scenes.

This doesn't seem right. I mean, it's easy enough to RECTO-fy (see what I did there?), but seems like a bug to me.

Btw, I picked effects that were different from the ones that first load by default. They also remained the same, and didn't change channels.
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If you don’t want anything to change with the cab, then while on the channel you want, click the channel drop down for the cab, and select copy current channel to all and hit save….won’t happen again. I don’t think you have a bug.
 
Another way to go is, just make sure to save every scene with the channel you want….for instance, you said scene 3 and 8 had the issue, so switch to those two scenes, change the channel to the same one as the other six, the save the preset…done
 
Rock Chalk said:
If you don’t want anything to change with the cab, then while on the channel you want, click the channel drop down for the cab, and select copy current channel to all and hit save….won’t happen again. I don’t think you have a bug.
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I'm not looking for a different way to do what I want to do. As I said in my OP, I realize I could just use Scene Manager to copy my first scene to all other scenes, and everything would stay the same.

My issue is: Why do the other blocks- IN1, OUT1, Amp 1 & 2, Chorus, Delay, & Reverb..., ALL stay on channel A when I switch to other scenes, but the Cab block does not? AND, it seems to choose which scene to change to channel B in, at random, since in the first preset I built, it did it in scene 2, yet when I built the preset a 2nd time, it switched to channel B in scenes 3 and 8.

Maybe, since the Cab Block had a major change to its behavior in this latest FW, there could be something not working the way it's supposed to.

I mean, I don't really care, because in the future I can just use SM to copy S1 to ALL. I'm just trying to point out what I see as a weird behavior. I mean, why is it only exhibiting this behavior with the Cab Block and no others? Sure seems like a bug to me.
 
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I'm not looking for a different way to do what I want to do. As I said in my OP, I realize I could just use Scene Manager to copy my first scene to all other scenes, and everything would stay the same.

My issue is: Why do the other blocks- IN1, OUT1, Amp 1 & 2, Chorus, Delay, & Reverb..., ALL stay on channel 1 when I switch to other scenes, but the Cab block does not? AND, it seems to choose which scene to change to channel 2 in, at random, since in the first preset I built, it did it in scene 2, yet when I built the preset a 2nd time, it switched to channel 2 in scenes 3 and 8.

Maybe, since the Cab Block had a major change to its behavior in this latest FW, there could be something not working the way it's supposed to.

I mean, I don't really care, because in the future I can just use SM to copy S1 to ALL. I'm just trying to point out what I see as a weird behavior. I mean, why is it only exhibiting this behavior with the Cab Block and no others? Sure seems like a bug to me.
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I don't think I'm telling you a different way to do it.......I'm telling you {I believe} how to fix it. If you try what I said in post #251, and then start another new patch, does it still have the issue? If so, then I will stop trying to help you, and you can report it to whoever you wish as a bug. All I'm saying is, I don't have the issue on my III.

Edit: Also, just as an aside.....my channels are all lettered ABC&D, not numbered as you indicate, so, not sure what's up with that.
 
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Rock Chalk said:
I don't think I'm telling you a different way to do it.......I'm telling you {I believe} how to fix it. If you try what I said in post #251, and then start another new patch, does it still have the issue? If so, then I will stop trying to help you, and you can report it to whoever you wish as a bug. All I'm saying is, I don't have the issue on my III.

Edit: Also, just as an aside.....my channels are all lettered ABC&D, not numbered as you indicate, so, not sure what's up with that.
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I'm sorry about the channels- yes they are ABCD, not 1234. (Edited in both my posts wherein I mentioned channels.)

I'll try what you said.

Edit: I did it again- brand-new preset-and this time none of the channels changed. But I am positive I myself changed no channels the last time I tried this. (I don't think I ever touched any channels the first time either, but whatever.)

Maybe the channel-switching behavior is some type of "holdover" from a previous preset...? The reason I say this is, when I went to build a new preset subsequent times, when I added the Amp 1 and Amp 2 Blocks, in parallel (amp 2 directly below amp 1, for what it's worth), they already had the Revv models that I used in the previous preset I made. But I never saved those presets, and I moved up to a new, never-before-used, empty preset slot, each time I made a new preset. o_O

So even when you don't save a preset, the Axe still seems to "remember" certain previous selections. So maybe that's what it was doing with the channels. But I still say it shouldn't! :D
 
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TSJMajesty said:
I'm not looking for a different way to do what I want to do. As I said in my OP, I realize I could just use Scene Manager to copy my first scene to all other scenes, and everything would stay the same.

My issue is: Why do the other blocks- IN1, OUT1, Amp 1 & 2, Chorus, Delay, & Reverb..., ALL stay on channel 1 when I switch to other scenes, but the Cab block does not? AND, it seems to choose which scene to change to channel 2 in, at random, since in the first preset I built, it did it in scene 2, yet when I built the preset a 2nd time, it switched to channel 2 in scenes 3 and 8.

Maybe, since the Cab Block had a major change to its behavior in this latest FW, there could be something not working the way it's supposed to.

I mean, I don't really care, because in the future I can just use SM to copy S1 to ALL. I'm just trying to point out what I see as a weird behavior. I mean, why is it only exhibiting this behavior with the Cab Block and no others? Sure seems like a bug to me.
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I just built some quick presets in different <EMPTY> slots using several blocks - In 1, Drive 1, Amp 1, Amp 2, Cab 1, Cab 2, Delay 1, Reverb 1 and Out 1. All blocks were automatically on Channel A when added to the grid.

The first preset had Amp 2 and Cab 2 in parallel and there were different channels displayed for several blocks in different scenes.

Second preset, I removed Amp 2 and Cab 2 for an all series chain. Only the Amp 1 and Delay 1 blocks changed channels, to Channel B, on Scene 2. The rest of the scenes they remained on Channel A.

Built a third preset that was similar to the first but added Chorus and Flange blocks in parallel as well as a Pitch block. Again, Amp 1 and Delay 1 changed to Channel B in Scene 2 only.

Built preset 1 again and the Amp 1 and Delay 1 blocks were the only blocks that changed channels on Scene 2.

The channels for Cab block 1 or 2 only changed in the very first preset. They remained on channel A across all scenes in the rest of the presets.
 
JoKeR III said:
I just built some quick presets in different <EMPTY> slots using several blocks - In 1, Drive 1, Amp 1, Amp 2, Cab 1, Cab 2, Delay 1, Reverb 1 and Out 1. All blocks were automatically on Channel A when added to the grid.

The first preset had Amp 2 and Cab 2 in parallel and there were different channels displayed for several blocks in different scenes.

Second preset, I removed Amp 2 and Cab 2 for an all series chain. Only the Amp 1 and Delay 1 blocks changed channels, to Channel B, on Scene 2. The rest of the scenes they remained on Channel A.

Built a third preset that was similar to the first but added Chorus and Flange blocks in parallel as well as a Pitch block. Again, Amp 1 and Delay 1 changed to Channel B in Scene 2 only.

Built preset 1 again and the Amp 1 and Delay 1 blocks were the only blocks that changed channels on Scene 2.

The channels for Cab block 1 or 2 only changed in the very first preset. They remained on channel A across all scenes in the rest of the presets.
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I'm really beginning to think that the Axe somehow "remembers" certain things that were done in the past, maybe dependent on which row was used, or whether it was the last preset in which a 2nd Amp Block was used, or some other thing that is somehow similar to the last time an item was placed on the grid, or a different channel was chosen, or the phase of the moon, etc., even if that previous preset had not been saved. I still think that is weird behavior, but..., anyway.

But what I do know now is, moving forward, I won't rely on a configuration I've laid out in Scene 1, staying the same across the other scenes, automatically.

The reason I even investigated the issue in the first place, was because when I switched to Scene 2 in my original preset, the sound was different. So I looked at each block to find what had changed, as I moved through the scenes, and saw that the Cab Block had somehow switched to a different Cab type, but I hadn't noticed that what it really had done was switch to channel B.
 
TSJMajesty said:
But what I do know now is, moving forward, I won't rely on a configuration I've laid out in Scene 1, staying the same across the other scenes, automatically.
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Yep, I ALWAYS check all scenes b/c config (channels and bypass state) can vary across scenes for new presets (or adding a block) for some reason (maybe a cache?).
 
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