gchirag said:I've sent the Schematic of the Engl Savage 120 amp head. Engl provided it directly to me.
So Cliff can now model the amp head.
gchirag said:Hi Mosh, Brother,
I've sent you the Schematic by e-mail as you wished.
Engl sent me the schematic directly within the next day.
Engl is one my most favourite amps alongside the Marshall.
Marshalls are good if you also like pedals, i like to use various boosters and fancy Od pedals by Fulltone, Maxon, Mad profssor etc plus ODs basically drive the tubes to create natural organic distortion rather then seperate buzzy thin distortion created by disto pedals.
I once used a Randall Warhead amp and it sounded a bit weak even with the Boss metal-zone but after years i used a nice yellow Od pedal and it drove it to sonic mayhem with super sustain etc and the tone with thick and heavy.
Killswitch Engage, God Forbid only use ODs. I love Engl as it sounds super out of the box without the need for ODs but alongisde Engl i think Marshall is nice if you like using Pedals hehe especially like me as i love ODs.
moshwitz said:Engl E530
Soultrash said:moshwitz said:Engl E530
E530 FTW!!!
awesome preamp, sold mine when i got my axe-fx...i'm missing it! :mrgreen:
bmi said:To me all the Engl sound the same.
Just sold an Engl Screamer and it was really close to the Energyball (Powerball) of the Axe.
PZilla said:Sunn Beta Lead
Sounds weird me requesting a solid state amp...
but these things are jewels of the amp world. Capable of going from clean country or jazz on channel 1 to sludged out doom post-metal tones on the second channel.
ENGL Screamer can't do Metal???? I'm not an expert and there are many Metal styles today but it makes me laugh. Depending on your guitar/pickup you surely can do Metal :SliderJeff said:bmi said:To me all the Engl sound the same.
Just sold an Engl Screamer and it was really close to the Energyball (Powerball) of the Axe.
Wow.... not even close. The Screamer, despite it's name, is a rock amp at best. The e530 (to a lesser degree) and e570 (and e580) preamps are high gain, heavy metal monsters of tone.
SCREAMER HEAD E 335
If you want to play smashing rock with tamed gain, this should be the amp of your choice. Killing tube tone and incredible handling ease are the trademarks of this amp-line. Sparkeling clean, harmonic crunch and powerful leads are the goodies youíll get from our SCREAMER.
POWERBALL E 645
EVOLUTION: No compromise, ultra low end, versatile ROCK/METAL amp. 4 channels lead to where no ENGL amp has gone before. The Sonic Evolution of ENGL sounds, from crystal clean to crispy crunch ñ tight fat rhythm to punchy lead sounds in conjunction with low bottom end to satisfy the needs of the modern guitarist. Rich harmonics and fast attack delivered by special built transformers to cut through on any stage or recording situation.
Those are taken direct from the Engl website.
Have you actually played both amps side by side? They aren't even in the same state, let alone the same ballpark, tone wise. Then again, maybe the ones you played were just terribly maintained or something. Honestly, from a gain stage perspective alone, the Powerball has 4 stages in the preamp and the Screamer has 3. In most cases, that will take you from "rock you like a hurricane" to "I will melt the flesh from your shattered skull" territory.
Of course, your mileage may vary, but clearly my experience has been very different from yours.
Happy playing,
Jeff
bmi said:ENGL Screamer can't do Metal???? I'm not an expert and there are many Metal styles today but it makes me laugh. Depending on your guitar/pickup you surely can do Metal :SliderJeff said:bmi said:To me all the Engl sound the same.
Just sold an Engl Screamer and it was really close to the Energyball (Powerball) of the Axe.
Wow.... not even close. The Screamer, despite it's name, is a rock amp at best. The e530 (to a lesser degree) and e570 (and e580) preamps are high gain, heavy metal monsters of tone.
SCREAMER HEAD E 335
If you want to play smashing rock with tamed gain, this should be the amp of your choice. Killing tube tone and incredible handling ease are the trademarks of this amp-line. Sparkeling clean, harmonic crunch and powerful leads are the goodies youíll get from our SCREAMER.
POWERBALL E 645
EVOLUTION: No compromise, ultra low end, versatile ROCK/METAL amp. 4 channels lead to where no ENGL amp has gone before. The Sonic Evolution of ENGL sounds, from crystal clean to crispy crunch ñ tight fat rhythm to punchy lead sounds in conjunction with low bottom end to satisfy the needs of the modern guitarist. Rich harmonics and fast attack delivered by special built transformers to cut through on any stage or recording situation.
Those are taken direct from the Engl website.
Have you actually played both amps side by side? They aren't even in the same state, let alone the same ballpark, tone wise. Then again, maybe the ones you played were just terribly maintained or something. Honestly, from a gain stage perspective alone, the Powerball has 4 stages in the preamp and the Screamer has 3. In most cases, that will take you from "rock you like a hurricane" to "I will melt the flesh from your shattered skull" territory.
Of course, your mileage may vary, but clearly my experience has been very different from yours.
Happy playing,
Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in4z9Rk3pQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKuZiFo ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z84HelvL ... re=related
How did you call this ..."musette"???
I've not tried a Powerball but a Savage. All difference that i can see between the big brother and the small screamer is that it provides more accurate/defined saturations and it has more balls(100w). For me the shape of the tone is the same and i can get almost the same tone with the screamer than with the powerball of the Axe (more accurate saturations).
I trade my JCM2000 with an ENGL Screamer because i can't get success to sold it. The Screamer comes with EH tubes which are not the best for this kind of amp. I've set NOS tube and Harma STR Retro EL34 coming from my plexi which are more gritty tubes than JJ and i can tell you that the sound was more tight and clear. I'm sure than with Tung Sold Gold Pin in preamp stage and EMG you are exactly in the same park than his big brothers.(with of course less balls)
Here is a powerball :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkkZhYaSqhs
Savage :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtkTeGPJ ... re=related
By the way looking to the schematic it seems to me that the high gain position of the Screamer uses 4 stages and not 3 as you say.
The info I posted is direct from Engl
Honestly, from a gain stage perspective alone, the Powerball has 4 stages in the preamp and the Screamer has 3.
bmi said:The info I posted is direct from Engl
This one???
[quote:3cdp04hk]Honestly, from a gain stage perspective alone, the Powerball has 4 stages in the preamp and the Screamer has 3.