Fryette vs Tube head as power amp

[sprint]

there is room on the market for a reputable manufacturer who could develop amp heads without tube technology, but with transistors adapted to our needs for modeling systems, which are precisely there to digitally deliver all the audio qualities of tube preamps and amps

I thought that's what Matrix GT1000Fx was getting at (flat but tube like - designed for modelling) which is why I chose it - long in the tooth now but still works well in my hacker's basement music room.

 

[Adman103]

I thought that's what Matrix GT1000Fx was getting at (flat but tube like - designed for modelling) which is why I chose it - long in the tooth now but still works well in my hacker's basement music room.

I've got one too, still works, sounds great. Tempted to try an LXII, but like my dad always says, don't fix it if it ain't broke.

 

[sprint]

I've got one too, still works, sounds great. Tempted to try an LXII, but like my dad always says, don't fix it if it ain't broke.

ya, I gas for LXii also but price and lack of availability in my area keep my gas at bay.

 

[Lolo-G]

The Seymour Duncan Power Stage amplifier specifications list the peak power rating, not the continuous power rating. This is from the datasheet for the ICE 700AS2 module (which I believe is similar to what is used in the Seymour Duncan PS700):

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Extrapolating that data to 2 channels driven at 16 Ohms you'd expect about 100W per channel with an ambient temperature of 25 centigrade. That should be enough power for most situations. A 100W tube amplifier can output as much as 120 W when in full square wave output, so 100W continuous still isn't quite enough continuous power to replicate that level of power.

In this table, I understand that the ICE module can deliver 2X350W under 8 ohms for 5 minutes and 2X200W/8 ohms in continuous mode without reaching thermal protection with an ambient temperature of 25°C
and no information on behavior in strong transient regimes

 

[Lolo-G]

Here are some pictures of the inside of the PS700 for those interested.

 

[OrganicZed]

I just finished watching an interview with Steve Fryette where he went into a lengthy discussion about why he doesn't like class D amplifiers in the form that they are most often implemented for guitar focused products. Many of the statements lead me to believe that he was specifically thinking about the Seymour Duncan amps.

 

[zebric21]

Poweramps with modellers must be the deepest rabbit hole in the known universe.

 

[Lolo-G]

ya, I gas for LXii also but price and lack of availability in my area keep my gas at bay.

The Fryette LX2 seems very powerful but also very expensive

 

[zebric21]

The Fryette LX2 seems very powerful but also very expensive

The synergy 5050 seems a lot cheaper and equally capable.

 

[Lolo-G]

The synergy 5050 seems a lot cheaper and equally capable.

Yes it seems so too!

 

[sprint]

The synergy 5050 seems a lot cheaper and equally capable.

if I'm not mistaken, Fryette had a hand in that one also - so its likely in the ballpark of LXii.

 

[OrganicZed]

if I'm not mistaken, Fryette had a hand in that one also - so its in the ballpark of LXii.

Steve Fryette designed that amp. It is a variant of the LXii that has a less expensive output transformer design. He has also stated that the presence and depth controls on the SYN5050 have a wider range than the depth and presence controls on the LXii. Otherwise, they are very similar.

 

[Budda]

Poweramps with modellers must be the deepest rabbit hole in the known universe.

I suspect pickup swaps, picks themselves and fuzz may go deeper. More time to have been travelling lol

 

[Lolo-G]

I'm having trouble knowing if the Synergy 5050 fits in a 1U or 2U rack minimum... does anyone here have the answer?

visually I think 1U

 

[Budda]

I'm having trouble knowing if the Synergy 5050 fits in a 1U or 2U rack minimum... does anyone here have the answer?

visually I think 1U

Spec should be listed on their site as well as any retailer. Quick search says 1U.

 

[Lolo-G]

I ordered a Synergy 5050 to mount in a Gator Retro rack

 

[zebric21]

I ordered a Synergy 5050 to mount in a Gator Retro rack

I might as well stop bothering with solid state and embrace tubes again for power amping.

 

[Lolo-G]

I might as well stop bothering with solid state and embrace tubes again for power amping.

I want to test this option!

 

[Midheavy]

I ordered a Synergy 5050 to mount in a Gator Retro rack

Keep in mind the 50/50 sound is colored compared to the LXII which has a neutral sound and gets colored when you turn on the depth and presence buttons.

 

[NorCal_Val]

The synergy 5050 seems a lot cheaper and equally capable.

It works for me.