Iatros
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Hey Hey people,
I've been playing around with a two notes torpedo studio and a dual rec, namely trying to mimic the combo using Axe FX II XL+'s modelling, and I've run into a snag.
What I've noticed is that my Axe dupes of the DR lack the low end response of the Rec+Torpedo S, namely, in the sub 40hz range. This gives the DR a significant OOMPH that I find lacking in the Axe's modelling.
I took a snapshot of the two frequency response plots using the same C# chord after adjusting the input gains on my UR824 to equalize average signal power, (see First Test attachment)
My torpedo patch uses roughly the same Cab combo (brit VintC + brit VintO), which as far as I could find are IR's of marshall 1960 cabs (one with V30's one with G12's).
Mics on the Axe have been matched by ear since the Axe and torpedo don't often have the same mic models, nor even responses that sound similar with a known cab.
I've checked the CAB block of the Axe to make sure I didn't have an unreasonable low cut setting; it is set to 20hZ with a 6db/octave rolloff. Furthermore, power amp and cab modeling are enabled on the Axe.
The signal chain of the Axe is likewise comparable to the DR/TS combo; I run my guitar into a Radial J48 direct box, out into a Radial Twin City amp switcher and into either the AXE or the DR. My Axe patch is nothing special, just a single Amp/Cab block combo.
Interestingly, when I disable the cab block on the Axe, run the signal into cubase, and use Two Notes Wall of Sound plug in to copy the settings on the Studio, the frequency response starts to look quite similar and the two amps sound even closer to each other (see Second Test attachment). It almost seems like the Axe cab block has a built in rolloff that is not controlled by its low cut parameter.
So, my question to you is are there any other parameters I may have forgotten about that are causing the low end rolloff? Or perhaps Fractals IRs of the 1960 cabs had a rolloff introduced to clean them up?
Are there any ways you can think of to make them sound closer to each other?
Best,
Iatros
I've been playing around with a two notes torpedo studio and a dual rec, namely trying to mimic the combo using Axe FX II XL+'s modelling, and I've run into a snag.
What I've noticed is that my Axe dupes of the DR lack the low end response of the Rec+Torpedo S, namely, in the sub 40hz range. This gives the DR a significant OOMPH that I find lacking in the Axe's modelling.
I took a snapshot of the two frequency response plots using the same C# chord after adjusting the input gains on my UR824 to equalize average signal power, (see First Test attachment)
My torpedo patch uses roughly the same Cab combo (brit VintC + brit VintO), which as far as I could find are IR's of marshall 1960 cabs (one with V30's one with G12's).
Mics on the Axe have been matched by ear since the Axe and torpedo don't often have the same mic models, nor even responses that sound similar with a known cab.
I've checked the CAB block of the Axe to make sure I didn't have an unreasonable low cut setting; it is set to 20hZ with a 6db/octave rolloff. Furthermore, power amp and cab modeling are enabled on the Axe.
The signal chain of the Axe is likewise comparable to the DR/TS combo; I run my guitar into a Radial J48 direct box, out into a Radial Twin City amp switcher and into either the AXE or the DR. My Axe patch is nothing special, just a single Amp/Cab block combo.
Interestingly, when I disable the cab block on the Axe, run the signal into cubase, and use Two Notes Wall of Sound plug in to copy the settings on the Studio, the frequency response starts to look quite similar and the two amps sound even closer to each other (see Second Test attachment). It almost seems like the Axe cab block has a built in rolloff that is not controlled by its low cut parameter.
So, my question to you is are there any other parameters I may have forgotten about that are causing the low end rolloff? Or perhaps Fractals IRs of the 1960 cabs had a rolloff introduced to clean them up?
Are there any ways you can think of to make them sound closer to each other?
Best,
Iatros