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yek said:
Now you have lost me. What is the relationship between news, meat, genetically modified food, truth, morals and money?
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My response was to "how do you know who to believe?" It's not just the news, but the news (and social media) is probably the most damaging when they overlook important things and amplify unimportant ones. They are pretty much making a sales pitch rather than giving you facts to draw your own conclusions.

The relationship between those things is they exist to make money. Truth and morals play a very small role... this wasn't always the case.
 
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When the state media (NPR, AirForce) is considered “the truth/the moderate” position… lol

I got some FTX crypto storage available… 😝
 
steadystate said:
Fake Tennis.

That chart is BS.
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Meaning what? That it's skewed in some particular direction? Randomly wrong in a few places? Mostly wrong? Not a valid thing to try to measure?

And why should we believe you more? The only evidence or thought process you've shown is those two letters.
 
Dave Merrill said:
Meaning what? That it's skewed in some particular direction? Randomly wrong in a few places? Mostly wrong? Not a valid thing to try to measure?

And why should we believe you more? The only evidence or thought process you've shown is those two letters.
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My opinion. And you shouldn't believe me. IMO, CNN and Fox are way too center on this chart, as are all the rest. And Timcast is to the right of Fox? He's a Sanders supporter, yet is probably the most neutral of any of them when it comes to reporting. I could choose any so-called metrics I wanted to make any chart I pleased.
 
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I'd also grapple with the placements of some of those media outlets, but again, opinions...curious what the basis is for placing them. It is a good list for those who want to traverse the news media spectrum, but I wouldn't take it for much more than that.

So, while we're discussing journalism, I noticed an Opinion Piece that came out of the Washington Post recently, from a well-known name in national journalism. Regardless of the content, which is political, the critical facts that the story was based upon were evidently 100% opposite of what was presented in the OpEd story. Error was eventually corrected but unsure if the article is still posted since the entire premise is now gutted.

It seems the author of the opinion piece obviously didn't double-check the information, nor did the editing staff, who ( you'd think ) would give it a quick look-see. Or worse, they just didn't care if it was accurate or not...because it supports a specific POV. People can disagree with the viewpoint, but what bothers me is the simple lack of respect for facts & statistics, especially ones that are readily verifiable.

This is precisely what I'm talking about with respect to the news media integrity. This was a rookie fact-check mistake. Is it truly a mistake, or was it an "oops, wink-wink-nudge-nudge" mistake? That is a problem. We're not talking about some local yokel newspaper, but one of the historically premier national/international news organizations of the last century.

So what happens when a story like this is spread, but then we can only speculate as to how many eyeballs found the correction/redaction? We're left with a number of people who may go on believing for quite some time that something is true when exactly the opposite is true.
 
jimfist said:
I'd also grapple with the placements of some of those media outlets, but again, opinions...curious what the basis is for placing them. It is a good list for those who want to traverse the news media spectrum, but I wouldn't take it for much more than that.

So, while we're discussing journalism, I noticed an Opinion Piece that came out of the Washington Post recently, from a well-known name in national journalism. Regardless of the content, which is political, the critical facts that the story was based upon were evidently 100% opposite of what was presented in the OpEd story. Error was eventually corrected but unsure if the article is still posted since the entire premise is now gutted.

It seems the author of the opinion piece obviously didn't double-check the information, nor did the editing staff, who ( you'd think ) would give it a quick look-see. Or worse, they just didn't care if it was accurate or not...because it supports a specific POV. People can disagree with the viewpoint, but what bothers me is the simple lack of respect for facts & statistics, especially ones that are readily verifiable.

This is precisely what I'm talking about with respect to the news media integrity. This was a rookie fact-check mistake. Is it truly a mistake, or was it an "oops, wink-wink-nudge-nudge" mistake? That is a problem. We're not talking about some local yokel newspaper, but one of the historically premier national/international news organizations of the last century.

So what happens when a story like this is spread, but then we can only speculate as to how many eyeballs found the correction/redaction? We're left with a number of people who may go on believing for quite some time that something is true when exactly the opposite is true.
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I'd be interested to read that story, if it's still available, with, and ideally also without, any post publication changes.
 
Dave Merrill said:
I'd be interested to read that story, if it's still available, with, and ideally also without, any post publication changes.
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The original story as archived prior to correction:
https://archive.is/ThCGn
The study used as the basis for the story:
https://archive.is/iiJHG
The study article corrected:
https://www.businessinsider.com/people-moving-out-of-florida-in-2021-2023-7

I don't have a Washington Post subscription so no idea if there is a correction to the opinion piece.
 
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