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Warmia said:
Axe fx sounds like, I don't know, glass or metallic sound, like you put a cab into the bath full of razors. Shit sound of pitch effect it is indeed.

The end.
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Warmia said:
Sound shit and completly out of control. Simply SHIT!
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Warmia said:
dear god now it's fucking smashing!!!! im so exited! sounds better then I expected!!!
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Ah ha! Quite a turn around then?!?!?
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Glad it's working out and fair play to the guys who helped out... 'community' at it's best
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Great thread with excellent tips. Bakerman has always got some incredible modifier control ideas that are one step beyond.

How about the reverse effect: have the sound fully dropped 2 octaves, and when you hit the switch it slowly ramps up to actual pitch and bypasses the pitch block. What would be the keys to getting this behavior in a single momentary switch?

Thanks again for the great info.

j
 
jimfist said:
Great thread with excellent tips. Bakerman has always got some incredible modifier control ideas that are one step beyond.

How about the reverse effect: have the sound fully dropped 2 octaves, and when you hit the switch it slowly ramps up to actual pitch and bypasses the pitch block. What would be the keys to getting this behavior in a single momentary switch?

Thanks again for the great info.

j
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The pitch control could be like the dive version (IA triggering run of trapezoid LFO) except the modifier should start at 100% and drop. If you'd always play some low stuff for a few seconds each time (or just once), a bypass modifier could work to bypass once pitch reaches 0. A damping setting of 1000ms can actually give about 4-5 seconds between toggling the switch & bypass. The time seems to be how long it takes to get only halfway to the current value, plus there's deceleration at the end.
 
Bakerman said:
The pitch control could be like the dive version (IA triggering run of trapezoid LFO) except the modifier should start at 100% and drop. If you'd always play some low stuff for a few seconds each time (or just once), a bypass modifier could work to bypass once pitch reaches 0. A damping setting of 1000ms can actually give about 4-5 seconds between toggling the switch & bypass. The time seems to be how long it takes to get only halfway to the current value, plus there's deceleration at the end.
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Great! Thanks again for the help. ~ Jim
 
Warmia said:
dear god now it's fucking smashing!!!! im so exited! sounds better then I expected!!! I didn't try it with Multi-band comp though but I will.

thanx guys for your help and patience !!
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Can you share the preset (or effect block setting) and footcontroller settings as a service to others? Thanks.
 
Here's what I have now, a few changes since the last clip. External 2 triggers dive. By using a Down/Up whammy mode and lowering control modifier offset to 0 the dive can happen within the first 50% or less of the LFO range, which means you can get a given dive rate from a lower LFO rate and (the only reason for doing all that) more time at full drop amount before it returns to normal & dives again. Note: LFO1 type is actually trapezoid. Axe-Edit will claim sine due to LFO run modifier affecting the type displayed, but it will load to Axe-FX correctly as trapezoid.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28651/axefx/Slow_Dive.syx
 
Hmm, can't it to work. There's no "dive", just a immediate drop of pitch.

- The II has no Offset and Scale parameters in the modifier menus.
- I'm using an onboard IA switch on the MFC, set to Pitch1, so I don't have attach an external to Bypass to switch the block.
- I've configured that switch to additionally send CC21 (I'm using external 6 to control and trigger).
 
yek said:
Hmm, can't it to work. There's no "dive", just a immediate drop of pitch.

- The II has no Offset and Scale parameters in the modifier menus.
- I'm using an onboard IA switch on the MFC, set to Pitch1, so I don't have attach an external to Bypass to switch the block.
- I've configured that switch to additionally send CC21 (I'm using external 6 to control and trigger).
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try start 50%, mid 0%, end 0%, slope 72%, damp 4ms
See if that doesn't get you close on the II as far as the modifier is concerned.
 
Axe-FX function = Pitch 1, or none w/ the Pitch 1 CC# set as one of the general use CCs? AFAIK, to avoid having to change it to general use you'd need to set External 6 (on the Axe) to the same CC# as Pitch 1 bypass.

Start/mid/end at 50/0/0 is as close as the II can get to that modifier curve, no way to hit 0 before LFO reaches 50% it seems.
 
Bakerman said:
Axe-FX function = Pitch 1, or none w/ the Pitch 1 CC# set as one of the general use CCs? AFAIK, to avoid having to change it to general use you'd need to set External 6 (on the Axe) to the same CC# as Pitch 1 bypass.
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Okay, fixed. But the dive start only after 4 or so after activating the preset.

Edit: preset attached (AxeFx II).
 
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You mean after activating the pitch block, and the dive sounds right but it doesn't start instantly? All I can think of is: check all LFO 1 parameters, make sure the pitch ctrl. source is LFO 1B, not 1A. If the II has a different start point for trapezoid then different B phase and/or duty settings (1% instead of 99% plus modifier start/mid/end changed to 0/0/50) might be needed.
 
Bakerman said:
You mean after activating the pitch block, and the dive sounds right but it doesn't start instantly? All I can think of is: check all LFO 1 parameters, make sure the pitch ctrl. source is LFO 1B, not 1A. If the II has a different start point for trapezoid then different B phase and/or duty settings (1% instead of 99% plus modifier start/mid/end changed to 0/0/50) might be needed.
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Yes, it does't start instantly. I'll check those settings out later tonight. Thanks.
 
Hey, so I know that this thread issue was resolved, but I noticed that the user had the Axe Ultra. Will I be able to do these slow pitch shifts with the Axe Standard? It's pretty important for me to be able to go both up and down at a controlled rate during certain songs I play.
 
YStSnapper said:
Hey, so I know that this thread issue was resolved, but I noticed that the user had the Axe Ultra. Will I be able to do these slow pitch shifts with the Axe Standard? It's pretty important for me to be able to go both up and down at a controlled rate during certain songs I play.
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Yes, there are more options with the Ultra (advanced whammy mode, 2 pitch blocks possibly useful for certain things) but the examples in this thread could be done with a standard.
 
YStSnapper said:
Hey, so I know that this thread issue was resolved, but I noticed that the user had the Axe Ultra. Will I be able to do these slow pitch shifts with the Axe Standard? It's pretty important for me to be able to go both up and down at a controlled rate during certain songs I play.
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All the examples I posted were done with my Standard.
 
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