wcfieldskx
Power User
yup, the Drop is still the best by quite a bit. IME, anyways..
Not my video but I just watched it and I think it kind of suits the conversation here well :
Maybe renaming “fast/smooth” to “single notes / chords” can be a nice ideaPitch Tracking is set wrong.
Original, Digitech Drop -7, VC -7 Fast 5, VC Fast 10, VC Off 5, VC Off 10, VC Smooth 5, VC Smooth 10, Original.
There's an audible difference with both the pitch stability and the transient preservation, but thing that stands out to me is that you can get a good pitch shift with the Virtual Capo at amazingly low latency. At Fast/5 it's about 5 msecs less latency than the Drop.
What? I provided audio clips that you neglected to provide. As I said, they clearly demonstrate audible pitch and transient differences. You're welcome . I'm not sure it would have made much of a difference, but Cliff is right, that youtube video does a poor job of doing a comparison. He turned the pitch tracking control in the wrong direction .I'm not talking about the latency, I'm talking about the tone difference and the warble. All I know is I duplicated the experiment twice and changed the settings on the axefx to smooth and while it does help to a degree, it still has more warble and is less true to the original tone. And I will say it once more, this is a subjective and if you hear something different, that's awesome.... Just not what I hear.
What? I provided audio clips that you neglected to provide. As I said, they clearly demonstrate audible pitch and transient differences. You're welcome . I'm not sure it would have made much of a difference, but Cliff is right, that youtube video does a poor job of doing a comparison. He turned the pitch tracking control in the wrong direction
I just shared an observation of my own experience, this is not a debate. If your experience and opinion is different, good for you. Anything more would be like debating which amp sounds best. The answer ........the one that you like the most.What? I provided audio clips that you neglected to provide. As I said, they clearly demonstrate audible pitch and transient differences. You're welcome . I'm not sure it would have made much of a difference, but Cliff is right, that youtube video does a poor job of doing a comparison. He turned the pitch tracking control in the wrong direction .
I’m just trying to help you out by supplying the clips you didn’t upload. If you want to debate something with somebody, sorry, I can’t help you with that.I just shared an observation of my own experience, this is not a debate. If your experience and opinion is different, good for you. Anything more would be like debating which amp sounds best. The answer ........the one that you like the most.
He specifically said: “I just shared an observation of my own experience, this is not a debate.”…. If you want to debate something with somebody, sorry, I can’t help you with that.
All I did was upload some audio to help him out by providing objective evidence to support what he's saying. I guess no good deed goes unpunished .He specifically said: “I just shared an observation of my own experience, this is not a debate.”
Yep, the warble I didn't like may be exactly what someone else likes.When the debate portion starts, let me know. I'll come back then.
Original, Digitech Drop -7, VC -7 Fast 5, VC Fast 10, VC Off 5, VC Off 10, VC Smooth 5, VC Smooth 10, Original.
There's an audible difference with both the pitch stability and the transient preservation, but thing that stands out to me is that you can get a good pitch shift with the Virtual Capo at amazingly low latency. At Fast/5 it's about 5 msecs less latency than the Drop.
Yeah, the Digitech had the least amount of warble to my ears as well.I'm not talking about the latency, I'm talking about the tone difference and the warble. All I know is I duplicated the experiment twice and changed the settings on the axefx to smooth and while it does help to a degree, it still has more warble and is less true to the original tone. And I will say it once more, this is a subjective and if you hear something different, that's awesome.... Just not what I hear.
I would certainly hope anybody listening to the clips can hear that! It is not just your ears . Also, see my other comment about transients. That's why I uploaded the clips: to steer this away from becoming a pointless discussion about subjective opinions, which is usually the result when somebody starts a thread like this without providing audio clips.Yeah, the Digitech had the least amount of warble to my ears as well.
It still boggles my mind a bit that people would use this live. I’ve used it for practice when the recording was a different key from what we were playing a song, and ended up deciding I prefer to modulate the music and keep my guitar natural. Virtual capo makes the guitar sound… off. A big pitch change is very disorienting when I am getting a very different pitch from what I am playing. I’ve also noticed the virtual capo doesn’t handle rapid notes well.Just did my standard -5 drop B but in a clean scene of a preset - I hear the warble you're talking about.
I wonder how noticeable it'd (will?) be in a band context.