Price of a new Deluxe Reverb is nuts

Hand wired. I wonder if you can program it for a reach around?
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Ryan Pullin said:
Found someone talking about the price history of a Deluxe Reverb in 1964 being $229 (https://www.harmonycentral.com/foru...tailing-historians-fender-amp-prices-in-1964/) source cited in the post

Adjusted for today’s money, that’s about $2400 for a handwired Deluxe Reverb. With economies of scale, not sure why Fender feels the need to charge so much for their amps nowadays even with the global market the way it is now.
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The tubes alone could account for the reason ‘economies of scale’ aren’t resulting in a reduction in price. In the 1960s devices that used tubes were everywhere. Now there are only a few places in the world making them, and that scarcity doesn’t make them more affordable. And the deluxe reverb has a LOT of tubes for a 20w amp. I suspect copper is also relatively more expensive (ie, after adjusting for inflation), making transformers relatively more expensive.
 
The digital models in the FAS products are so solid, plus a million bonuses.

And, I'm super happy with the analog "model" in the Ethos Clean Fusion Deluxe (plus, it also does a whole lot more!) That will be back soon, after a power amp boost mod. Can't underestimate that. It was one of the things I loved about the ADA Rocket A10.
 
TheRedDevil said:
Who needs Fender anymore ;)
https://www.thomann.de/de/harley_benton_tube15_celestion.htm
260$
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Unbelievable, I got to test the Harley Benton Tube 15 Top tonight with my 1x12" V30 cabinet. The amp can do Plexi-style AC/DC, Fender/Matchless clean sounds, and even B.B. King or Chuck Berry, and you basically just have to change the guitar and hardly adjust anything. That's never happened to me with a Marshall. When I think back to my first JCM900 combo, even AC/DC didn't work because the highs were lacking. But you can tell that I'm getting very, very close to the original sound with the AXEFX and its 4900Hz high-cut filter, and as soon as I add the studio monitors and enhancers, a whole new world opens up. Suddenly you can hear the subtle nuances of whether you're playing well or badly, or which of the three single-coil guitars you're using. That's what's missing with the V30. Everything just sounds like it's coming out of a "can," nasal, or just overly mid-heavy. But it shows me that I was only slightly off the original amp sound, just a little too much bass or treble. That's all there is to it. Still, it's amazing what you can get for €180. If only I'd had something like this before. I can definitely recommend it. I'll keep it for fun and comparison. It even seems to have JJ tubes inside (label on the amp). Incredible for the price.
The option to go up to 20kHz on the modeler is something I wouldn't want to be without, especially for clean or compressed blues sounds. But it's kind of strange that such a cheap amp can do all that well enough, and if you didn't know it was there, you wouldn't really miss it. By the way, I was able to play either at 1W at 70dB or up to 15W at 70dB, and at 15W even with the master volume turned all the way down. You can't blow too hard on it, otherwise it gets too loud.
 
Dave Merrill said:
Gotta be pricey, and hard to find.
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https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/collections/bartel
https://chucklevins.com/collections/guitar-amplifiers?page=1&rb_vendor=Bartel Amplifiers LLC

to name two from a good list.

"Pricey"? You get what you pay for. Mark Bartel was the guy behind Tone King amps for years, sold it and moved to his new line. I followed him as he was putting them together, and, having had three of his Tone King amps, they're wonderful. Any one of them would be a desert-island amp and I still have two.
 
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