New Fractal product coming!!

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MicroMort said:
That would be cool, but they JUST partnered with RedSound, so probably not yet.
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I wasn't aware of these - thanks for the heads up!

On first glance these appear to be more of the Atomic CLR "wedge" category - heavy, high quality, but expensive.

The FR-12 seems to be more reasonably priced and lightweight - aimed at your average gigging joe with a bad back - with generally good reviews.
 
leagueofkruger said:
I wasn't aware of these - thanks for the heads up!

On first glance these appear to be more of the Atomic CLR "wedge" category - heavy, high quality, but expensive.

The FR-12 seems to be more reasonably priced and lightweight - aimed at your average gigging joe with a bad back - with generally good reviews.
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The FR-12 actually sounds really good.
 
Rick said:
The concept was easy transition, and it’s been very effective. My bud walked away from every modeler he tried until the TMP… it works like a pedalboard. One thing at a time. He’s a dyed in the wool amp and pedal guy, and that interface sold him. It’s killer, imho.

I have to say I agree that my fave thing is the encoders, but they become more awesome when they assign themselves to whatever you select. It’s a brilliant system, but one I think FAS could reinvent and improve. You can’t hang your hat on “originality” when your business is ‘modeling” but you can certainly improve the way it’s used by players. No company beats FAS at that, and I’d love to see their take on such an interface. There’s a reason I still play FAS, after all!
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I seriously wondered whether Fender licensed the encoders from Neural DSP, or even (letting my inner conspiracist run wild) whether Fender bought Neural DSP. Then again, Neural DSP may have licensed the encoder-switches from somebody else. But it made me think!
 
BBN said:
Would/could work just like Slate microphones. The Mic/Pickup is as clean as possible, and the 'modelling' adds the color of different Mic/Pickups.
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This morning while working out (or trying to), I saw my Variax Shuriken hanging on the wall, and thought, "Ooohhh, what if Fractal did guitar modeling!" And I immediately thought, "I'd lay out serious money for that." I was a big fan of the Variax; I owned a James Tyler Variax, and I've owned several others over the years. The only one now is the Shuriken, which I'll keep around, since the Variax is no more. I do not expect that Fractal would wade into those waters, so I'm not delusional. But I'd be sooo on board if they did.
 
LanceZ said:
This morning while working out (or trying to), I saw my Variax Shuriken hanging on the wall, and thought, "Ooohhh, what if Fractal did guitar modeling!" And I immediately thought, "I'd lay out serious money for that." I was a big fan of the Variax; I owned a James Tyler Variax, and I've owned several others over the years. The only one now is the Shuriken, which I'll keep around, since the Variax is no more. I do not expect that Fractal would wade into those waters, so I'm not delusional. But I'd be sooo on board if they did.
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If they do some kind of guitar modeling ever I hope they just sell the electrics because I would load it up on other guitars.
 
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AmbientOwl said:
I picked up an FR-10 and think I like it better than my Elis.8s -- almost wishing I had tried the 12 though.
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Not necessarily better, but I definitely understand.

The Elis.8 need to be driven to open up. They're much more of an audiophile build. I can say that they don't seem to have the max SPL of others. They're awesome for playing at home, and would work well for small gigs (largely drummer-dependent).

The FR-10s are what I am planning to keep, once Liam's V3 (am on the list for V2s) is released. A great preamp will make a huge difference, even though the drivers won't be on the same level at the Redsound ones. The additional feature set (eq, line out, and easy tilt-back) on the FRs are a big part of what set them apart. Fender just screwed up with the crummy (aka hissy, and other issues) preamp.
 
I think that a wide range pickup/piezo captor could be the solution, but not as good as a whole guitar, because your can calibrate the instrument with the machine learning stuff (or modeling but I doubt as it’s not based on circuitry component but mostly on hard to model physical interaction)
The lack of distortion could avoid aliasing ;)

Here’s how to do it :
1- First you modulate magnetic field at the same position as real string guitars to simulate string magnetic fields variations on real guitars, capturing the result through their pickup configuration and do the same with the Fractal Guitar in the same exact same configuration
2- you run a machine learning training LSTM stuff (or other) to match both outputs, same imput.
3 - you load the model when playing, with inference.
My guess is that it could be smaller models than NAM, with less parameters, like ToneX or even smaller like quad cortex neural networks, light, with very few latency.
The key thing is the calibration. You can’t do that with a loaded pickgard or a pickup.
 
LanceZ said:
This morning while working out (or trying to), I saw my Variax Shuriken hanging on the wall, and thought, "Ooohhh, what if Fractal did guitar modeling!" And I immediately thought, "I'd lay out serious money for that." I was a big fan of the Variax; I owned a James Tyler Variax, and I've owned several others over the years. The only one now is the Shuriken, which I'll keep around, since the Variax is no more. I do not expect that Fractal would wade into those waters, so I'm not delusional. But I'd be sooo on board if they did.
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I would get on board with this. The only thing I didn't like about the Variax was the actual guitar itself. Bakc in the day, there was a small community of Warmoth aficionados that would buy Variax guitars and gut them for the electornics. I think Line6 missed on opportunity to partner directly with a company like Warmoth. If Fractal released a "loaded" strat pickgaurd with modelling pickups, and you could buy a pre-routed body from a company like Warmoth - I'd be all over it.

I really doubt this is what they are planning, but it would be pretty awesome.
 
Vio said:
pickup response modeling?
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Would it be possible to simulate pickups using existing IR technology? We can recreate different microphones, speakers, is there any reason a pickup couldn't be captured? Obviously, I am not an IR expert....
 
GMGM said:
I would get on board with this. The only thing I didn't like about the Variax was the actual guitar itself. Bakc in the day, there was a small community of Warmoth aficionados that would buy Variax guitars and gut them for the electornics. I think Line6 missed on opportunity to partner directly with a company like Warmoth. If Fractal released a "loaded" strat pickgaurd with modelling pickups, and you could buy a pre-routed body from a company like Warmoth - I'd be all over it.

I really doubt this is what they are planning, but it would be pretty awesome.
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I agree it was a missed opportunity. Create the pickups and electronics to be retrofitted into any guitar. The pickup could be universal, and the circuit board required may have to be guitar specific....but not impossible to create 3-5 versions for the more popular guitar builds.
One that fits into a Les Paul control cavity....one designed to mount in a Fender pick guard, etc.
 
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I already know what is going to happen. To avoid getting “angry” about no news, I’m going to stop checking this forum all the time. And immediately when that happens, they will open the waitlist. And once again it will be a year or more to get whatever this mysterious gold idol turns out to be.

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