flyingfadr
Power User
Sometimes it is overkill... depends on the song and on the amount of gain used...
Maybe you could share the preset and we could tweak it... O=-)
Maybe you could share the preset and we could tweak it... O=-)
But which tube amp ? Starts off the path of going from amp model to amp model, then back to the same amp model but with some mods, swapped tubes, different speaker cabinet, various drive pedals in front, changing from wireless back to cable, changing brand of cable
etc etc
Its not like you buy any old tube amp and "bingo", perfect tone in your head
But anyway, I took the admin's advice and played with the Delay and proximity parameters on the cab. I didn't exactly find what I was looking for HOWEVER I did find this
from a quick calc it would have to be a very small amount of delay, less than half a millisecond?!?
Whoever tells me Im not ready to mix albums doesn't know me. And besides, I'm mixing MY album. Not someone else's. So for MY stuff, I've been more than ready for the past few years now. I understand what you're saying (and I know you were in a rush at work) but that's kind of irrelevant here.
it's a "head thing" imho, for me it's really hard to settle for one special sound, i also often do not have a concrete image of the sound i am looking for,
so basically i just stick to the closest one that makes me think, oh yeah this sounds killer. your sounds are not bad, you just have to "accept" them
That tone sounds like two mics out of phase slightly. That's a common studio trick. They move one mic back to get some phase shift. Use the Delay in the Cab block to dial in some phase shift. Probably lots of post-processing there too.
One mic sounds very close to the speaker so I would try the Redwirez with a really short distance for one of them.
I'm gonna start off with an apology. I'm sorry I've been posting all the time on the forums about not being able to "find that tone" and everything. I've been posting about it for what feels like a year. I'm sure there's a few out the who reads one of my posts and says to themselves, "really dude? you're still having probs?" This may sound like self-defeatism but it's possibly true.
But anyway, I'm here again on the forums lately hearing people's work and it seems like they have that edge to their tone that i've been looking for all this time. A prime example would have to be this guy:
LISTEN TO THAT! Holy shit! That sounds awesome! A great edgey and raunchy tone. Just simply fantastic. It's a tone match example btw.
Now here's me (not the same riff as above BTW):
It ain't bad. It's the best tone I could come up with that came close to what I was looking for. But it feels dull. Especially when the power chords come in. There's an edge that's missing. I don't know how to describe it.
If you listen to the first example you hear a sort of "vowel" like growl within it. It's really mean sounding. It's THAT that I'm trying to get. I'm not trying to match necessarily but I am trying to gain that ability to get that mean sound. And I just cant seem to get it.
I've tried EQ's (like the Mark EQ, Para EQ, Etc.) Drives pre/post amp, all sorts of cab combos, and Ownhammers IR's from the Mesa Celestial pack that cost me 20-something dollars. I think I also tried RedWire (?) IR's that I also paid like 7 dollars or something and they didn't work like I liked. It feels like the IRs captured all the parts of the speaker cone EXCEPT the part I'm looking for (assuming it is indeed the mic placement that gets you that sound) I tried multiple guitars. I tried finding something close to what I was looking for on Axe Exchange but there's SOOOOO many I'd lose my ears going through them all. I don't know how others are getting it.
And tone matching... I don't know how to do it properly. I watched a youtube video of a guy demonstrating with one of John Petrucci's solo stemmed tracks. He had it DEATHLY close to the original. I tried to do as he said and get close to the tone I was trying to match then bypass the cab and put in the tone match block yada yada yada. Once I hit 'enter' to match, the life of the tone just simply vanishes. It gets no where close and matter of fact it pulls me so far backwards it's hilarious.
And I'll think I have it one day and reamp my entire album with it (which takes a couple hours) I'll hear it again later that day and I feel like I've been fooled by my ears. Seems my ears play tricks on me to get me to stop for a while until the next LONG round of tweaking. This has had to have happened to me at least 20 or 30 times.
I'm totally lost. Had I found what I was looking for, my album would be out by now, I'd still have a girlfriend, and I'd be doing more chores around the house. You can call me crazy or whatever you like. But I refuse to put out an album that I'm only OKAY with because I wish I had found the growl I was looking for.
I know the Axe FX II is more than capable of generating the tone I need. I can hear it in other people's clips that are fucking awesome! I just can't seem to get there and I feel like the answer is staring me at the face wearing a Dream Theater t-shirt and a "Fuck You" hat. And after a year and a half of tweaking, I'm fried.
PS: That girlfriend part may have been overdramatic. I would have broken up with her anyway because she was a total bitch and a half.