Axe-Fx III Firmware 25.00 Release

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I did some double track recording with 25 beta and after installing 25 release noticed some major differences in the high end of the Triple Crest 3 as well as around an 8 dB difference in the line level.
Downgraded to 25 beta for now to finish with the recordings.
I did a tone match from one of the tracks and went from -8 dB to 0 dB in the amp block to compensate but it was like tonal cannibalism trying to match the fractal to itself.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what I had with the beta.
The 25 release Triple Crest has a lot more hair on it and I do love it (with some new tweaks of course)!!
 
Scotto said:
I did some double track recording with 25 beta and after installing 25 release noticed some major differences in the high end of the Triple Crest 3 as well as around an 8 dB difference in the line level.
Downgraded to 25 beta for now to finish with the recordings.
I did a tone match from one of the tracks and went from -8 dB to 0 dB in the amp block to compensate but it was like tonal cannibalism trying to match the fractal to itself.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what I had with the beta.
The 25 release Triple Crest has a lot more hair on it and I do love it (with some new tweaks of course)!!
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I was playing that model today it’s killer , really rich sounding and screams for leads
 
Have you noticed a loss in touch sensitivity with your clean presets? I know a lot has changed on the amps, and I probably need to increase the input gains/overdrives. However, it really feels like the loss of touch sensitivity when you increase the amount of a noise gate. Is there a way to decease this amount to how it was before the firmware?
 
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TGM said:
Have you noticed a loss in touch sensitivity with your clean presets? I know a lot has changed on the amps, and I probably need to increase the input gains/overdrives. However, it really feels like the loss of touch sensitivity when you increase the amount of a noise gate. Is there a way to decease this amount to how it was before the firmware?
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I have not , I felt the dynamics were greatly improved on my end but I don’t use any setting on the gate other than default for clean tones you could probably lower it or turn it off altogether
 
TGM said:
Have you noticed a loss in touch sensitivity with your clean presets? I know a lot has changed on the amps, and I probably need to increase the input gains/overdrives. However, it really feels like the loss of touch sensitivity when you increase the amount of a noise gate. Is there a way to decease this amount to how it was before the firmware?
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No, actually the opposite.
 
TGM said:
Have you noticed a loss in touch sensitivity with your clean presets? I know a lot has changed on the amps, and I probably need to increase the input gains/overdrives. However, it really feels like the loss of touch sensitivity when you increase the amount of a noise gate. Is there a way to decease this amount to how it was before the firmware?
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I have also noticed this,
I use my FRFR system with slight global EQ correction as monitors on my desk.

and experimented with the global Input 1 Gain and at 0.8 it is almost comparable to the 25b3.

However, if you reduce the output of your FRFR slightly without changing Input 1 Gain, i.e. 1.0, the effect is very similar.

Conversely, the volume is higher than usual
the amp usually has a more dominant effect on the sound image.
And here the 25b3 has a more homogeneous effect in the sound image, more sensitive and more mature.

FW25 final is great and if you recognize the above described everything is much better. I think so..

Try it out and compare it with 25b3.
 
StratPIt said:
I have also noticed this,
I use my FRFR system with slight global EQ correction as monitors on my desk.

and experimented with the global Input 1 Gain and at 0.8 it is almost comparable to the 25b3.

However, if you reduce the output of your FRFR slightly without changing Input 1 Gain, i.e. 1.0, the effect is very similar.

Conversely, the volume is higher than usual
the amp usually has a more dominant effect on the sound image.
And here the 25b3 has a more homogeneous effect in the sound image, more sensitive and more mature.

FW25 final is great and if you recognize the above described everything is much better. I think so..

Try it out and compare it with 25b3.
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There were NO changes between 25b3 and the final release other than the addition of the AC30 Brilliant amp model.
 
FractalAudio said:
There were NO changes between 25b3 and the final release other than the addition of the AC30 Brilliant amp model.
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Thanks for that insight, I just looked and realized I was using 25 beta 2 (axefxiii_dsp_rel_25p00_beta2) and downgraded to that temporarily for some recording. Love that Triple Crest 3.
 
TGM said:
Have you noticed a loss in touch sensitivity with your clean presets? I know a lot has changed on the amps, and I probably need to increase the input gains/overdrives. However, it really feels like the loss of touch sensitivity when you increase the amount of a noise gate. Is there a way to decease this amount to how it was before the firmware?
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No, I personally have not. It actually feels better, which is cool considering it was excellent prior.
 
Took my Axe, Powerstation, and a G12H75 in an H&K 1x12 to a practice session last night. The tone and absolute balls on everything blew me and everyone away!

Main preset was an amalgamation of other presets:
  • 1210 Clean from @2112
  • One Step Closer Recto (Verse) from @Cooper Carter
  • A custom dial-in on a 5153 Stealth Red

Switching to the ODS-100 preset from @Burgs as needed. ;)

Bravo, @FractalAudio! And thank you to all the above folks for making some out-of-this-world tones!

Star Trek Applause GIF
 
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Budda said:
My guess is they decreased the threshold/it clamps faster now and experienced a loss of dynamics, which is what happens if you set a gate too high..
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That's where I was headed... It's not about "touch response" so much.
 
Randalljax said:
The noise gate now is awesome before you could hear when playing especially the brighter high gainers almost a static underneath the notes , now it is dead silent and all that background noise is completely gone
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Intelligent or classic mode?

Upd: or both?
 
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