Dave Merrill
Axe-Master
Ok I'm confused, not an expert on these amps.
Is stealth/non-stealth the same thing as tube choice?
Is stealth/non-stealth the same thing as tube choice?
Yes.Seems reasonable.
But again, are there any differences, besides the actual tubes used?
There are other amp models that do this and it's accounted for. At least the Tweed Deluxe, if my memory serves...Both.
There is a bright cap on the Blue channel Gain pot, this bright cap goes to ground in parallel with the Red Gain pot, and vice versa.
I think the best solution would be to turn the OTHER gain pot to max, and put its value in parallel with the working gain pot, excluding the other bright cap.
But the stealth model from the beta isn’t in the fm9 yet lol it’s only the axefxSame thing, my friend. You can still do what I recommended.
My apologies. I thought you were referring the preexisting 5153 model in all units.But the stealth model from the beta isn’t in the fm9 yet lol it’s only the axefx
It has nothing to do whether people have tube amp experience or not, that mod is simply not needed as it does nothing to the tone that you couldn't have done without the mod. In fact it actually requires the user to perform an extra step or two, to obtain the same results as without the mod (adjust amp block output level manually and turn it on/off). Sorry, I just see the mod as a waste of Fractal's engineering time as Cliff had it right the first time, because he improved on the real amp's feature (seeing there's no need to use it as a pseudo power section volume/gain control which one might do with a real amp that has this mod?).I beg to differ.
I have a NFB control on my amp (as do many other people) and expect the NFB control in the Axe to work just like the real thing.
I don't understand the chase for accuracy+authenticity only to destroy it with side-wheels so people who never touched a tube amp don't get confused.
Do we want accuracy or a helping-hand? The obvious answer is both.
Now we got both.... but people still complain. WTF?
If this never makes it to Axe-Edit, at least keep it as a hidden option.
I beg your pardon?...mind blowing for knob riders
Just a FYI, but it says Firmware 22.x on the download page, in case it's 23.x only (?)ciao these are tests of my personal interpretation of some Michael Landau sounds using the new FW 23.03 beta
https://axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=10703
I'd like to say thanks.You got that right. Nobels ODR-1 with Fenders: Twin, Pro, Vibrolux… and now in the Axe FX. One upgrade that has the ODR-1 and the Marshall 2203 can only be described as completely magic. And both are behaving completely right.
I'm so pumped for the new EVH 100w model. Here's a clip I did of my own "Stealth 100w head's Blue channel -> Suhr IR -> Fractal Cab blocks" a while ago to try and show how surprisingly dynamic it really is, because so often all you hear from 5150's are chugging rhythms or blazing leads type playing, which are great, but these amps don't get their due credit for how versatile they can be.
This clip happens to be the 100w Stealth EL34, but I also own a 100w Stealth 6L6 and can tell you these amps are EXACTLY the same except for the power tubes. In practice the EL34 has maybe a db or two more "forward" mids if that's the right way to say it, but it's subtle enough that this could honestly be caused by manufacturing tolerance in the taper of the EQ knobs. The Blue and Red channels in both amps sound identical.
As for the clip, the ONLY settings that change from beginning to end are my guitar's volume knob, pickup selection, and how hard I hit the strings. The amp knobs were not moved, nor were any pedals toggled. At the start it's almost pristine clean and by the end it moves into modded JCM 800 territory.
We're getting a seriously cool amp here.
I'm so pumped for the new EVH 100w model. Here's a clip I did of my own "Stealth 100w head's Blue channel -> Suhr IR -> Fractal Cab blocks" a while ago to try and show how surprisingly dynamic it really is, because so often all you hear from 5150's are chugging rhythms or blazing leads type playing, which are great, but these amps don't get their due credit for how versatile they can be.
This clip happens to be the 100w Stealth EL34, but I also own a 100w Stealth 6L6 and can tell you these amps are EXACTLY the same except for the power tubes. In practice the EL34 has maybe a db or two more "forward" mids if that's the right way to say it, but it's subtle enough that this could honestly be caused by manufacturing tolerance in the taper of the EQ pots. The Blue and Red channels in both amps sound identical.
FYI I think this clip also has a Pitch Block after the amp setup to do a really subtle EVH "Balance" style effect where the pitch shifter pitches up the right side by like 6 ct and pitches down the left side by -6 ct or something close to that. I remember the Mix being very low so the effect is barely there, like maybe Mix at 12-15% or so. That's where the extra bit of "space" in the highs comes from.
As for the clip, the ONLY settings that change from beginning to end are my guitar's volume knob, pickup selection, and how hard I hit the strings. The amp knobs were not moved, nor were any pedals toggled. The Blue channels Gain knob was set hilariously low for this clip, like below 8:00, but it sounded great so that's how I left it. At the start it's almost pristine clean and by the end it moves into modded JCM 800 territory.
We're getting a seriously cool amp here.
Great tones, great playing, kudos!
Have to tried re-amping that through the new Stealth?
I'm so pumped for the new EVH 100w model. Here's a clip I did of my own "Stealth 100w Blue channel -> Suhr IR -> Fractal Cab blocks" a while ago to try and show how surprisingly dynamic it really is, because so often all you hear from 5150's are chugging rhythms or blazing leads type playing, which are great, but these amps don't get their due credit for how versatile they can be.
This clip happens to be the 100w Stealth EL34, but I also own a 100w Stealth 6L6 and can tell you these amps are EXACTLY the same except for the power tubes. In practice the EL34 has maybe a db or two more "forward" mids if that's the right way to say it, but it's subtle enough that this could honestly be caused by manufacturing tolerance in the taper of the EQ pots. The Blue and Red channels in both amps sound identical.
FYI I think this clip also has some very broad mid cut via Parametric EQ after the amp, and a Pitch Block after the amp setup to do a really subtle EVH "Balance" style effect where the pitch shifter pitches up the right side by like 6 ct and pitches down the left side by -6 ct or something close to that. I remember the Mix being very low so the effect is audible but very subtle, like maybe Mix at 15-20% or so. That's where the extra bit of "space" in the highs comes from.
As for the clip, the ONLY settings that change from beginning to end are my guitar's volume knob, pickup selection, and how hard I hit the strings. The amp knobs were not moved, nor were any pedals toggled. The Blue channels Gain knob was set hilariously low for this clip, like below 8:00, but it sounded great so that's how I left it. At the start it's almost pristine clean and by the end it moves into modded JCM 800 territory.
We're getting a seriously cool amp here.
+1If you ever repeat that tone in the AF3, please share the preset. Beautiful man.
I'm so pumped for the new EVH 100w model. Here's a clip I did of my own "Stealth 100w Blue channel -> Suhr IR -> Fractal Cab blocks" a while ago to try and show how surprisingly dynamic it really is, because so often all you hear from 5150's are chugging rhythms or blazing leads type playing, which are great, but these amps don't get their due credit for how versatile they can be.
This clip happens to be the 100w Stealth EL34, but I also own a 100w Stealth 6L6 and can tell you these amps are EXACTLY the same except for the power tubes. In practice the EL34 has maybe a db or two more "forward" mids if that's the right way to say it, but it's subtle enough that this could honestly be caused by manufacturing tolerance in the taper of the EQ pots. The Blue and Red channels in both amps sound identical.
FYI I think this clip also has some very broad mid cut via Parametric EQ after the amp, and a Pitch Block after the amp setup to do a really subtle EVH "Balance" style effect where the pitch shifter pitches up the right side by like 6 ct and pitches down the left side by -6 ct or something close to that. I remember the Mix being very low so the effect is audible but very subtle, like maybe Mix at 15-20% or so. That's where the extra bit of "space" in the highs comes from.
As for the clip, the ONLY settings that change from beginning to end are my guitar's volume knob, pickup selection, and how hard I hit the strings. The amp knobs were not moved, nor were any pedals toggled. The Blue channels Gain knob was set hilariously low for this clip, like below 8:00, but it sounded great so that's how I left it. At the start it's almost pristine clean and by the end it moves into modded JCM 800 territory.
We're getting a seriously cool amp here.
Will it include the interrelationship between blue and red gain knobs? I have a 50w where it doesn't happen, but people with the 100w seemed to like using that truck to tame the Red channel for recording.The new Stealth model is actually the 100W. I accidentally named it 50W because of a copy-and-paste error.
I'd argue not many people have amps with NFB in the grand scheme. It's a powerful, but uncommon mod.I beg to differ.
I have a NFB control on my amp (as do many other people) and expect the NFB control in the Axe to work just like the real thing.
I don't understand the chase for accuracy+authenticity only to destroy it with side-wheels so people who never touched a tube amp don't get confused.
Do we want accuracy or a helping-hand? The obvious answer is both.
Now we got both.... but people still complain. WTF?
If this never makes it to Axe-Edit, at least keep it as a hidden option.
Ok I'm confused, not an expert on these amps.
Is stealth/non-stealth the same thing as tube choice?