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Is that the only difference?
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i’ve been saying this for a while… But I guess we got to relearn all those lessons of the 1970s again
Is that the only difference?
Very cool, thank you!Anyone who wants to try the "alternate" Dyna-Cabs can install this:
https://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/firmware-presets/axe-fx-3/22p0/dyna_cabs_alt.zip
The 57 has been replaced by an SM7.
I see a few people here talking about how there isn’t enough bottom. I’m curious, what does everyone consider “bottom” frequency wise?
I admittedly feel like the bottom is pretty ample in my option, to where I’m high passing in the preamp up to around 80hz, sometimes close to 100hz depending on the amp or cabinet being used. I don’t generally turn the low end up on the amp models either, so I find it strange that people aren’t getting enough low end.
With a real mic+cab setup, what is the "standard" way to tame highs and lows? Is it moving the mic and not apply high/low cut, is it using low/high cuts or a combination of them? I've never miced a cab in my life, so I've got zero experience.Yep. I always use a high cut at around 7400.
With a real mic+cab setup, what is the "standard" way to tame highs and lows? Is it moving the mic and not apply high/low cut, is it using low/high cuts or a combination of them? I've never mixed a cab in my life, so I've got zero experience.
With Dyna Cabs, I'm not sure which procedure I like (I like 'em both), but I'm just curios how mining a real cab is done by pros in real life.
It's both and also, there are no rules... I've been messing around with it and immediately found I can dial in the IR much faster with the DynaCab then cycling through IR's...With a real mic+cab setup, what is the "standard" way to tame highs and lows? Is it moving the mic and not apply high/low cut, is it using low/high cuts or a combination of them? I've never mixed a cab in my life, so I've got zero experience.
With Dyna Cabs, I'm not sure which procedure I like (I like 'em both), but I'm just curios how mining a real cab is done by pros in real life.
My guess is so we're only able to use your ears and not be influenced by a particular brand or model of mic. Imagine if it was discovered that the condenser and ribbon mics were Behringer or MXL mics? Can you truly say that wouldn't affect your opinion on how the Dyna Cabs sound?My next question would be why keep the mics in a mic placement feature beta a secret but I know there's always a good reasons to their methods so I'll cease and desist on such questions.
You know that once you say something on the internet, that it’s now true.My guess is so we're only able to use your ears and not be influenced by a particular brand or model of mic. Imagine if it was discovered that the condenser and ribbon mics were Behringer or MXL mics? Can you truly say that wouldn't affect your opinion on how the Dyna Cabs sound?
sorry man - not a fan of the "just use your ears" mantra, particularly in the scenario you seem to suggest (hopefully not reality) where we'd only know the mic category (ie dyn, cnd, rib) and not the specific mic in use. Like amps models, micMy guess is so we're only able to use your ears and not be influenced by a particular brand or model of mic. Imagine if it was discovered that the condenser and ribbon mics were Behringer or MXL mics? Can you truly say that wouldn't affect your opinion on how the Dyna Cabs sound?
If only one mic model is being used for each type (Dynamic, Ribbon and Condenser), how does knowing the exact model matter?sorry man - not a fan of the "just use your ears" mantra, particularly in the scenario you seem to suggest (hopefully not reality) where we'd only know the mic category (ie dyn, cnd, rib) and not the specific mic in use. Like amps models, mic models are representations of precise reference bemchmarks so replicating real world cab micing in a graphical modelling feature imo needs to ID what specific mic the user is moving around (same for what specific speakers are in a cab enclosure).
Distance 0 (right on the grille) so the proximity effect helps fill in the bottom, and slide position until the shrill backs off a little. Just like IRL.I very much like the new Dynacabs - it‘s a game changer for me!
But i am not happy with the sound of the SM57 in the DynaCab, its to thin, sounds not like the real thing - like there is a high pass activated!
I am a long time broadcast engineer, working in professional ob vans and i do a lot of pop, jazz and classical recordings in different venues. So the SM57 is the main Mic for most Live Shows i see (and hear) before a guitar cab.
I have the pleasure to hear the sound isolated in the recording van with high end studio monitors and console in an acoustic treated environment and cant remember to hear a 57 before an amp that sounds that thin! Maybe the used one is broken?
yur kidding right? plenty of discussion here on the nuances of Sm7 vs SM57 for the dynamic category where we know the specific mic. Are we really going to debate if its good or not to know what specific mic the user is deploying in a mic placement app/feature? (rhetorical). I see no reason to conceal that basic useful info - but whatever - I'm thrilled to have this new feature overall particularly the IC connection aspect which is totally unique to Fractal (along with whatever other secret sauce).If only one mic model is being used for each type (Dynamic, Ribbon and Condenser), how does knowing the exact model matter?
A 58 works better than a 57 much of the time, also, and is my go-to dynamic mic choice in the few sets I have that include it as a choice. I can work with any of them and get satisfactory results, but the 57 is the most limiting of them, and/or requires a bit of preamp EQ to finish the job that mic placement starts....yur kidding right? plenty of discussion here on the nuances of Sm7 vs SM57 for the dynamic category where we know the specific mic. Are we really going to debate if its good or bad to know what specific mic the user is deploying in a mic placement app/feature? (rhetorical). I see no reason to conceal that basic useful info - but whatever - I'm thrilled to have this new feature overall particularly the IC connection aspect which is totally unique to Fractal.
Actual mics are used to capture IRs.Is the mic itself modeled along with the IR?
Not really kidding. If there are two or more mics being used, I can see the merit of knowing the models but at the end of the day, how it sounds is more important than the specific model.yur kidding right? plenty of discussion here on the nuances of Sm7 vs SM57 for the dynamic category where we know the specific mic. Are we really going to debate if its good or not to know what specific mic the user is deploying in a mic placement app/feature? (rhetorical). I see no reason to conceal that basic useful info - but whatever - I'm thrilled to have this new feature overall particularly the IC connection aspect which is totally unique to Fractal (along with whatever other secret sauce).
While I tend to agree, if it's a specific model then labeling it as such is useful.Not really kidding. If there are two or more mics being used, I can see the merit of knowing the models but at the end of the day, how it sounds is more important than the specific model.
My point and main question is when only one mic is used, why the need to know the model? IF the dynamic mic was an Audix I5, would even consider using it on the Dyna Cab even if it sounded good?
I'm assuming our comments here as 2ndary beta testers could reasonably anticipate the possibility of more "dyna-mics" to be added either directly or indirectly via cablab / 3rd pty. If there'll only ever be one of each category (which I doubt), then, ok, I'm kinda down with what you sayNot really kidding. If there are two or more mics being used, I can see the merit of knowing the models but at the end of the day, how it sounds is more important than the specific model.
My point and main question is when only one mic is used, why the need to know the model? IF the dynamic mic was an Audix I5, would even consider using it on the Dyna Cab even if it sounded good?