Shahar
Experienced
You win!A Damp 1
You win!A Damp 1
Ha ha...he said "bogart".....what a funny word.....haven't used that term in years. Even though Dram says there's no need, I think in honorHad one of the first batch, gigged it for 2 years in the 80's, sold it to a buddy,, still works now (battery change), nothin to see. If you got an AXFX, its already there, Ultra had it pegged easy, use your fingers. No excuses. MP1 ROTHFL ah vintage shit right? Be thankful, really trust me, Fractal already baked it in way back. My advice ? Move on to better juicier tones. RIP ADA. Memory flight,,Opened for Pantera MP1-Marshall 9200-Marshall split 4x12. Dimebag still kicked my ass, amazing show. I let him bogart my joint,,, very cool dude RIP DA
Since this unit is so loved by so many, I'm sure it's been used with every power amp out there, which makes me wonder if that's a reason Cliff has not modeled it. Which power amp to use?
One way to approach this as a model would be maybe to offer two versions, each paired with a different power amp; maybe one or both of the power amps could even be a FAS design. Just a thought.
The AI wouldn't be surprised if Fractal came out with two or more different new "amp names" on the same release, modeling this preamp married to different power sections. It's one way within the current ecosystem to deal with the problem of which power amp to use.
You could have various "new amps":
- the Fractal Adam P-1;
- the Fractal Damp 1-A;
- the Fractal 1987 Ad Amp;
- the Bogart Buzzkill 101 (in honor of the above post, and those who complain it's powered by bees)
...et cetera, et cetera, et alia, ad infinitum, and give each one sufficient power amp variation to get every big hair aficionado something a whisker away from what they recall. Then adjust the power section to taste (like we always do).
I think it got bumped because of the Nembrini plug in they released a few weeks agoA lot of action in this thread the past few days.
Is this going to be another one of those “get-Cliff-to-model-this-amp-by-brute-force” wish list items?![]()
No doubt! I’m totally down for an MP-1 model. They’re the bees knees. Literally.I think it got bumped because of the Nembrini plug in they released a few weeks ago
I think it’s a cool preamp , I had one years ago but Leon Todd’s version gets pretty close , IMO
Vito's phrasing - and tones - yeah 1000% agreed+1 would love a good Vito Bratta Tone!!
You would also need Michael Wagener to produce you+1 would love a good Vito Bratta Tone!!
From Micheal Wagener: The setup for the guitar sound for the EXTREME sessions as well as the first SkidRow album and White Lion's "Pride" album (in most cases, not on all tracks) was a Furman PEQ-3 into an unmodified ADA MP-1 (version 1.0, still got it) going into a McIntosh transistor poweramps (2100) into an original Marshall cab with 4x G12H (30W). The mics were, if I remember it right: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, Countryman lavalier and possibly a SM57/58 going into John Hardy M-1s and from there via a mono buss into a UREI 530 EQ and a BBE 802 then to digital tape (Mitsubishi 32 tack)"You would also need Michael Wagener to produce you.
I have an mp1 stock with originaln tubes and a 3tm. I have never been able to get those squealing harmonics with it and any of my guitars (I have a superstar Levinson blade RF-4 from the 90's with active pickups, so I shouldn't be that far from Vito's guitar).
You can also hear those harmonics in skid row's albums, and I think they used their own guitars, but I also read that Vito convinced Michael to get a steinberger for his studio. Maybe I should get one some day
But I digress, I just wanted to mention mp1 is not instant Vito magic.
I think the challenge with this model is that most people used in the FX loop in order to bypass the amp's own preamp, and when I asked about an fx loop for the axe some people mentioned Cliff wouldn't want to do this because it would make it easier for other people to steal fractal's intellectual property, which I totally understand.
Maybe we could have a 'preamp override' for all amps, where we could select one of those beautiful rack preamp from the 80's without exposing the IP of fractal... just wishful thinking here![]()
The rockman stuff is a lot easier because those are amp emulators themselves. The x100 has the problem you can't get the dry sound of the emulation without touching the circuit. It's either with chorus, echo or both together, and part of its magic are the fixed configuration values of those fx.Def need a MP1 & all the Rockman X100 modes/channels. the FX III has replaced & or cured the need to get JVM, JMP1, 800, Triaxis, X88. Had a MP1 & X100 but I sold them to help fund my FXIII Turbo. Please don’t make me have to buy them again and get a bigger rack lol
I can also hear what I presume to be a harmonizer doing the standard detune, and I seem to recall he also mentioned a spring reverb sometimes. I have an old Orban, but even with the built in input compressors is hard not to get it into bezerk-boinking mode with the mp1 output. With cleans it sounds amazing!... Furman PEQ-3 into an unmodified ADA MP-1 (version 1.0, still got it) going into a McIntosh transistor poweramps (2100) into an original Marshall cab with 4x G12H (30W). The mics were, if I remember it right: Fostex M11RP Ribbon, Countryman lavalier and possibly a SM57/58 going into John Hardy M-1s and from there via a mono buss into a UREI 530 EQ and a BBE 802 then to digital tape (Mitsubishi 32 tack)...
It would be great to also have that McIntosh amp (I have seen one moving around in the gearspace community in the last years, but it must be pretty hard to come by even for Cliff) and the bbe modeled. I always wanted one of those maximizers and was very close a few times, but for one reason or another never got to buy one. Maybe I'll start a request. With so many hair metal nostalgics in this forum, it might get some traction![]()