Windows 11

[pima1234]

Over 100K engineers and this is the best you can do? What a joke.

That's nuts. And I'm here in need of a decent job just to provide for my family, with plenty of skillsets. Life kinda sucks sometimes. Guitar is awesome!!!

 

[Bobbyoso]

Over 100K engineers and this is the best you can do? What a joke.

That's what happens when you lay off the engineers who built and maintained the code, and hire thousands of carpetbaggers with minimal experience on work visas. Since a lot of them don't speak or write English competently, the documentation and maintenance is often incorrect, and the code has degenerated--but hey, they're paying guys and girls with work visas 40% what they were paying those who actually built the stuff. Ask me how I know. This by the way, is not to be construed as a slam on foreign computer scientists; it's more an indictment of the quarterly profit death march that makes it imperative to hire to a price point, as opposed to a skill level. Lots of brilliant coders everywhere on the planet, but you don't get caviar from carp. And if you're only willing to pay for carp, well...

I retired from MSFT's Windows core OS division about 13 yrs ago. My most modern OS is Win7, altho I''ve had an XP machine running 24/7 for ~ 20 years, never a hiccup. If you can get copies of those OSs, and keep them OFFLINE, they will run nearly forever, with no anomalies. (Most other MSFT OSs except for oldschool NT 3.51 and 4 are not nearly as well done). I download stuff with my phone, xfer things like Fractal firmware updates to my PCs via USB. Both XP and Win7 will run flawlessly till the hardware siezes IF you don't run them online. New OSs are completely unnecessary (buggy, bloated, lots of exploits, and generally inferior) unless you are on the net, IMO, or you're a developer who needs the newest APIs, etc.

And being on the net does to computer health what drinking from a stadium urinal would do to your health. Sorry for the visual, but that's the truth. Stay off the web if you want your machines to run nominally for long periods of time. I know MSFT wants your $$$ far more often than you want to waste it, but that's their problem, not yours. Of course if you're a gamer, you're out of luck running XP, and your modern gaming machine and OS is likely already dying from the literally millions of worms, trojans, buffer exploits, etc. it's exposed to.

 

[CerealKiller]

File explorer has been garbage for a long time, imo. The sorting, the inconsistencies between formats when you navigate through folders.. the worst view is the one where it divides files into time buckets of how recent they are. You can disable it, but it always comes back and I never need it.

Use something like double commander instead, much neater, much more customisable, and consistent.

 

[lauke-lux]

I'm sure virus scanners incl. personal firewalls are perfect tools to collect your data because it has access to all what you are using. I would be careful with Kaspersky from Russia. Standard Linux distributions doesn't need/use virus scanners.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-...-collect-your-data-privacy-security-concerns/

Thanks for that table, umm...according tobthe article BTW the US anti-virus OEM seem not to be the best option regarding data collection .
Also I have no classified information on my computers which, of course, is not a reason for letting look any 3rd parties into my stuff.
As for the Russian aspect of Kaspersky, in my professional domain, especially since let's say about a year (but before also) we are actually very aware in Europe that there is no such thing as "good friends", but that we have only "partners". All our international partnerships are "contracts". All our "partners" are looking into our computers, or are trying to do so, and the Russians are just one amongst many others, not necessarily the most active. The only way to protect classified information from piracy is to treat it on an IT system that is not connected to the internet, as even cryptography cannot protect any information on the long run.

 

[Ckopnuo]

Pardon?

there s no any windows between linux distros, just it, so it woild be cool to be able to use an app under some linux w/o wine

 

[FractalAudio]

there s no any windows between linux distros, just it, so it woild be cool to be able to use an app under some linux w/o wine

No comprende.

 

[slimefuzz]

my historical favorite windows was 2000 server. won free licences at ms launch event.
like winxp without the fluff. ran my daw with that on isolated box for many years.

plus infinity on hating the file explorer mess and bloat in 11.

 

[Andrew Male]

There's a GREAT new issue with a recent Win11 update where startup programs don't load for a minute. They've introduced some delay that no-one seems able to get around with a registry update.

 

[FractalAudio]

Wow, the new File Manager is absolute trash. If you right-click it brings up a menu. Among the items is "Show more options". If you click this it simply brings up the Windows 10 menu and almost everything is duplicated from the initial menu. WTH is the point?

And z-ordering is messed up worse than usual. Z-ordering has always been an issue with Windows but it's worse than ever in 11.

 

[rossipedia]

I'm glad I don't need Windows for anything work-related anymore, and honestly I think I could get away with a Steam OS box for gaming. Microsoft's behavior in recent years has been.... illuminating.

 

[ESPer]

Wow, the new File Manager is absolute trash. If you right-click it brings up a menu. Among the items is "Show more options". If you click this it simply brings up the Windows 10 menu and almost everything is duplicated from the initial menu. WTH is the point?

And z-ordering is messed up worse than usual. Z-ordering has always been an issue with Windows but it's worse than ever in 11.

First off... yes M$ sucks. Few companies have annoyed me as much as them. There are some things you can do to mitigate at least a few of their new B$ items. Winaero Tweaker, O&O Shutup, and Windows Toolbox will help a lot. JayzTwoCents is a youtube channel that covers a lot of the settings to change in the aforementioned apps.

A "special treat" with the W11 25H2 update I just found was even though I had copilot disabled, it decided to turn itself on anyway, with the disabled setting still in place. The fix I found for that was to completely uninstall it under the apps tab, and the O365 icon. I'm sure in a future update it will resinstall itself again "to be helpful."

As soon as I can afford it, I'm going to get a Mac for anything that doesn't absolutely require windows. ....and yes I have several *nix based VMs for things (mostly tech) that I can use them for.

 

[Rex]

WTH is the point?

The point is to get you to accept a simple and opaque interface. Obfuscation has been part of the game for a while.

 

[FractalAudio]

First off... yes M$ sucks. Few companies have annoyed me as much as them. There are some things you can do to mitigate at least a few of their new B$ items. Winaero Tweaker, O&O Shutup, and Windows Toolbox will help a lot. JayzTwoCents is a youtube channel that covers a lot of the settings to change in the aforementioned apps.

A "special treat" with the W11 25H2 update I just found was even though I had copilot disabled, it decided to turn itself on anyway, with the disabled setting still in place. The fix I found for that was to completely uninstall it under the apps tab, and the O365 icon. I'm sure in a future update it will resinstall itself again "to be helpful."

As soon as I can afford it, I'm going to get a Mac for anything that doesn't absolutely require windows. ....and yes I have several *nix based VMs for things (mostly tech) that I can use them for.

Yup. OneDrive likes to reinstall itself too. Just what I want, M$ hosting my files on their computers. On page 3,785 of the User Agreement it probably says they can access your files to "improve products and enhance reliability".

 

[FractalAudio]

The point is to get you to accept a simple and opaque interface. Obfuscation has been part of the game for a while.

Okay but the whole "Show more options" just displaying the old Windows 10 menu reeks of lazy and/or unskilled programming. The look and feel of the two menus is completely different.

 

[Rex]

A "special treat" with the W11 25H2 update I just found was even though I had copilot disabled, it decided to turn itself on anyway, with the disabled setting still in place. The fix I found for that was to completely uninstall it under the apps tab, and the O365 icon. I'm sure in a future update it will resinstall itself again "to be helpful."

They've been doing the same thing for years with Windows Telemetry. Microsoft will give you a registry hack to "permanently" disable it, but it's back up and running with the next OS update. Can you tell they want it really bad?

 

[Rex]

Okay but the whole "Show more options" just displaying the old Windows 10 menu reeks of lazy and/or unskilled programming.

Nah. They just chose to spend their engineering dollars on more profitable aspects of their data-collection engine. And a major step toward phasing out the Windows 10 way. Make 'em dive a couple of levels to get it. I'm guessing they deprecated it with this release.

It's also a nod to us curmudgeons. "If Windows 10 is what they want, Windows 10 is what they get." And a tacit admission that the Win10 interface already gives you all the "more options" you need.

 

[Severed]

I donno, I always been a windows guy, I bought a prebuilt gaming PC last year instead of building one myself, 1st time in 30 years, and it handles everything audio as well as completely crushing gaming. zero complaints. zero errors. zero conflicts. unlocked and overclockable.

DESKTOP
Aegis RS2 14th
AEGIS RS2 C14NUG9-825US
Operating System Windows 11 Home
Chassis/ Color GUNGNIR
212RChipset intel Z790
Processor Intel® Core™ i9-14900KFCPU
Cooler Liquid 360
Graphic NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB GDDR6X 256-bit
System Memory 32GB DDR5 5600 (2 x 16GB)
Memory Total Slots 4x DDR5 UDIMM, Maximum Memory Capacity 192GB
SSD 2TB M.2 NVMe Gen4
Expansion 4x PCI-E x16 slot
2x PCI-E x1 slot
2x M.2 (1 free)
4x SATA 6GLAN
1x RJ45 (2.5Gbps)
Wireless LAN Intel® Wi-Fi 7
Blutooth BT 5.4
Audio 7.1 HD AudioRealtek® ALC4080 Codec
Mic-in/Headphone-out 1x Mic-in1x Headphone-out
Rear USB 2x USB 2.04x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A (5Gbps)
1x USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type C (20 Gbps)
Front USB 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A (5 Gbps)
1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1Type C (5 Gbps)
Video Port 1x HDMI-out (2.1)
3x DP-out (1.4a)
KB/Mouse MSI Gaming KBMS
Power Supply 750W 80+ Gold
Dimension 19.4'' x 9.1'' x19''Weight (LB) 26.9 Ibs
UPC 824142361092
Warranty 1 Year

I have zero issues with windows /shrug

 

[Rock Chalk]

There's a GREAT new issue with a recent Win11 update where startup programs don't load for a minute. They've introduced some delay that no-one seems able to get around with a registry update.

I have a program called "Lively Wallpaper" that I put in the Startup folder that started having the exact issue you describe.......here's the registry edit that fixed it for me.

 

[Moondog Wily]

Yup. OneDrive likes to reinstall itself too. Just what I want, M$ hosting my files on their computers. On page 3,785 of the User Agreement it probably says they can access your files to "improve products and enhance reliability".

You have of course RTFM and understand every single page of it I am sure ;~))

 

[reclavea]

When is fm14 coming out?



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