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maybe new T-shirts - "What would Cliff do?"
noooooo was waiting for the new firmware to clean everything and redo my presets but at this point I'll do it with the current one...
chill bro, it's 2nd public beta...ok the axe fx beta is out....
Even if I thought this way (that I got fm3 without expecting updates), I am skeptical I'd view the updates as gifts. If I bought my friend a mop, this wouldn't be intended to increase market or social value on my part, not even in part.If you take this view (which I definitely do) then the updates are most definitely gifts you should be thankful for, in my opinion.
Not sure I'd bet on any percentage magnitudes given the frequent wound up posts I see when it's been a while since last update or when one unit's had an update which another has not some time after.I'd be willing to bet that a large percentage of users are not aware of the update history or have any expectations regarding them when they make a purchase.
They missed an important part of the equation, they also needed the right guitar. And maybe they should have stuck with that one amp they had previously. And that pedal. Oh, and those particular strings….I'm still waiting since 2013 for someone to show me how an update gave them success and wrote a hit song for them, or elevated thier band from watering holes to stadiums.
Also, if this is truly gifting, imagine how bananas it is that so many keep asking for the gift every day. If I am wrong, and updates are indeed gifts -- for one reason or another -- all the more reason for the constant expectation to be toned down (oh god how nice that would be imo).
And if people at fractal themsleves DO view updates as gifts, that probably makes many end users seem unbelievably entitled, to a comedic level.. maybe even if these users don't see updates as gifts
Yeah, but I don't really play much. I just got the unit to do firmware up grades....I think at this point if you want the latest firmware updates you gotta roll with the AxFx3 or FM9. It’s kinda obvious that those are the flagship devices. I dusted off my AxeFx3 recently and forgot how much more capable it is over the FM3. And those new Stealth 5150 models…DAMN.
FM3 still good for those wanting a very portable solution. But that comes at a price firmware and power wise.
No big deal IMO. FW updates will come when they come. Plenty of killer sounds available in the FM3 as is.
or those "it'll never happen because it's been abandoned".until it goes to "hurry up" sentiments
we have been so fortunate to get industry-leading ideas into devices in many price ranges, available to almost all guitarists/musicians at any stage of their musical development.
When Hendrix tracked the solo for purple haze, Eddie Kramer looked over at him and said “close. Real close. Try it with that nitro finished guitar. We need to hear the guitar breathe through the finish just a bit more………..”They missed an important part of the equation, they also needed the right guitar. And maybe they should have stuck with that one amp they had previously. And that pedal. Oh, and those particular strings….
Maintenance updates and bug fixes, absolutely. It is a digital hardware or software developers responsibility and good business. But anyone who bought an AxeFXIII a few years ago has twice the product they paid for. To me, that is very much so a gift. They could very well release bug fix firmware and prematurely release the AxeFX IV with a ton more amps and FX and just hold those back for 2 years instead of dripping them out in free firmware updates for our AxeFXIII.Even if I thought this way (that I got fm3 without expecting updates), I am skeptical I'd view the updates as gifts. If I bought my friend a mop, this wouldn't be intended to increase market or social value on my part, not even in part.
At the very least, I'd view such intent, if it existed, as corrupting of the meaningfulness of a true gift... But with fractal, I cannot imagine this not being a substantial part of why we have updates in the first place, considering the market system at play.
I am thankful in some sense. But it's a thankfulness closer to "good business being done" compared to the thankfulness I view as warrantied in the context of true gifting.
And btw, I don't mean to be argumentative or cause a fuss. But I'm explaining my view, wrong as it's possible for it to be.
Also, if this is truly gifting, imagine how bananas it is that so many keep asking for the gift every day. If I am wrong, and updates are indeed gifts -- for one reason or another -- all the more reason for the constant expectation to be toned down (oh god how nice that would be imo).
And if people at fractal themsleves DO view updates as gifts, that probably makes many end users seem unbelievably entitled, to a comedic level.. maybe even if these users don't see updates as gifts
I don't know. I don't think fractal gives me gifts. Neither apple, in the form of updates, whatever the differences between these companies are (probably arguable that the differences are meaningful in this case). But at the same time, I certainly think a kind of thankfulness does apply, more so than in the case of apple -- just of a different substance than the one applicable to "true gift" receiving.