Windows 10 Automatic Updates are Baffling and Infuriating

I've had Windows 10 update my video card drivers while I was playing a game. Needless to say, the game did not like that; I was booted from it with zero warning. Of course Windows didn't say a thing; I had to confirm my hypothesis by checking the event listing under the GPU in device manager.

Horrible user experience. Win2k was the last great Windows IMO.
 
Want hell? IT controlled updates for Macs -- nothing like having IT force your Mac to reboot in the middle of a long Terraform run because YoUrE A pAtCh BeHiNd AnD rIsKiNg ThE bIzNeSs!!!. Thankfully I had the Terraform run homed on a remote server in a tmux session.
 
unix-guy said:
I've been using various versions of Outlook for at least 25 years for work. While there are occasional issues or things I've disliked about certain versions, I generally have no real problems.

I'm using it quite often every day and dealing with hundreds of emails a day.

I particularly like the newer (auto indexed) search capabilities, especially given than I have about 20 years worth of archived emails that I often need to search thru to refer to for technical issues I support.

In our environment we use it with Exchange (and now Outlook 365 for a couple years) so I don't know if your use may be affecting your experiences... Typically, the only times I have issues are when the backend (Exchange or network) is having problems, and you can't blame the client in that case.

This is in a very large enterprise (within top 15 of Fortune 500 list) with 10s of thousands of employees all using it.

Not discounting your opinions, just providing a different one.
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No issues with Outlook here either. Been on it since 2003. I have ~10 years of archived email in separate PSTs but since my company upped our quota to 250 gigs, I stopped even bothering with PSTs. Now I have about 3 years worth of email in one folder: Inbox. The auto index and search is great and once you have the google fu down, it's super easy to find everything. I hate email, but I hate Outlook the least of all clients. Call me when you want to have a shit talk about Teams though, that app fucking sucks. All hail Slack.
 
I’ve noticed some antivirus software will handle patching for you, for example PCMatic, also even if you disable windows updates to only notify you when available your AV software may be overriding the settings and updating your PC based on its settings, I have seen windows updates that change your windows update settings i.e. a security patch is released that re-enables a disabled windows update, so if you manually run updates when it convenient windows may patch your computer the next time automatically, also there is Windows Defender if your using that I believe that will also update settings and patches…
 
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Feature update to Windows 10, version 20H2 (2)
Last failed install attempt on ‎8/‎09/‎2021 - 0xc1900101

FUkUWiNdOWs! :mad:

I've already lost several hours with that! I've tried everything I've found on google search.

It is really infuriating
 
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Piing said:
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Feature update to Windows 10, version 20H2 (2)
Last failed install attempt on ‎8/‎09/‎2021 - 0xc1900101

FUkUWiNdOWs! :mad:

I've already lost several hours with that! I've tried everything I've found on google search.

It is really infuriating
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Frustration aside, use this link to download the upgrade, https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=799445 run it and make sure your important data is backed up but you should be fine.
 
Piing said:
Thank you for the link. That was installed successfully (it took about one hour), but I still have the same warning "Your device is missing important security and quality fixes."
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That's unfortunate, I've fixed many systems with that patch, if you want you can PM me but you might need to do a bit more ts, this looks like a good place to start https://windows101tricks.com/error-0xc1900101-updating-windows-10/ it looks like possibly a language pack may be the problem too, was the error code same as before or do you have a new one?
 
emghz said:
I've found that MacOS is the way to go when it comes to pro audio.
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That certainly used to be the case. Not so anymore.

As far as disabling Windows Updates, I've found this works. I choose which updates I want and always create a restore point before doing so, that way I can roll back easily if need be;

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Since the end of the 70s I have been working with computers and operating systems for professional and hobby reasons.
Starting with the Commodore Pet, vc20 over the 64er, Amiga up to the A4000t, Silicon Graphics, IBM and Intel PCs and Macs.
And according to their operating systems versions and processor generations.
From experience everyone has his favorite.

For me, Windows with Intel has developed the worst.
One was only so clever to sell it to the user with resource-eating colorful gigabyte large surfaces and high-flown Giga CPUs.

From Windows 1.0 with I386 to bliblablub the latest CPU and Win10.
Most of the leaps in performance have been made by the storage media.
The call of a file was then just as fast as today.
There is still a limited number of LW letters and their forgiveness.
The Registrie worsens by itself or by adding or removing programs.
Only a few uninstallations work cleanly etc.
And should not Win10 be the final OS..... now comes do Win11 and many will buy new hardware for it again.... oh the start menu is now in the middle.... ;)
And the constant updating is a real pain.:eek::mad:🤮


For more than 15 years I use privately only Macs and they run today still with the last possible OS. :yum:
 
Zedhed said:
As far as disabling Windows Updates, I've found this works. I choose which updates I want and always create a restore point before doing so, that way I can roll back easily if need be;

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Disabling windows update doesn't solve my issue of not being able to update. I'm stuck on Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1556) - 19H2

Some of the things I've tried so far:

1) Run Windows Update troubleshooter

2) Run the Reset Windows Update .bat file from here:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/24742-reset-windows-update-windows-10-a.html

3) Repair Windows image
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

4) Reset Windows Update Service
net stop wuauserv
net stop cryptSvc
net stop bits net stop msiserver
Ren C:WindowsSoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
Ren C:WindowsSystem32catroot2 Catroot2.old
net start wuauserv
net start cryptSvc
net start bits
net start msiserver

5) Upgrade from Media Creation Tool 21H1. Both online and from USB media.
Error: 0xC1900101 - 0x20017
The installation failed in SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation

6) Install Windows10 Upgrade 9252

7) Change Telemetry level to Enabled > Enhanced

8) Enable "Give me updates for other Microsoft products"

9) Remove additional languages

10) Disable Acronis True Image Active Protection and Windows Defender

11) Update on clean boot and disable 3rd party services

12) Run Windows 10 20H2 enablement package: "The update is not applicable to your computer"
http://b1.download.windowsupdate.co..._816fd030691161bfc9f892f0e9e1259e23a56c82.msu

13) Go through this checklist:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...rity-and/2964a57f-e6f4-4160-960c-d9c2af02a4f8

14) Go through this checklist:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-188c2b0f-10a7-d72f-65b8-32d177eb136c

15) Remove external hardware.
16) Disk C has 96GB free space, and no errors
17) No errors on Device Manager.
 
Wow Piing, that's some thorough troubleshooting right there! I've never seen that problem before.

For me though, I like sticking on the current version....because it works. I specifically DON'T want to update. With all Microsoft's talk of fixing vulnerabilities with an update, they often cause more problems than they fix.
 
Zedhed said:
Wow Piing, that's some thorough troubleshooting right there! I've never seen that problem before.

For me though, I like sticking on the current version....because it works. I specifically DON'T want to update. With all Microsoft's talk of fixing vulnerabilities with an update, they often cause more problems than they fix.
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Yes, it works perfectly as it is. I am just concerned of the message "Your device is missing important security and quality fixes"

The search for that problem gives more than 12,000 results on Google.
 
Piing said:
Disabling windows update doesn't solve my issue of not being able to update. I'm stuck on Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.1556) - 19H2

Some of the things I've tried so far:

1) Run Windows Update troubleshooter

2) Run the Reset Windows Update .bat file from here:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/24742-reset-windows-update-windows-10-a.html

3) Repair Windows image
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth

4) Reset Windows Update Service
net stop wuauserv
net stop cryptSvc
net stop bits net stop msiserver
Ren C:WindowsSoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
Ren C:WindowsSystem32catroot2 Catroot2.old
net start wuauserv
net start cryptSvc
net start bits
net start msiserver

5) Upgrade from Media Creation Tool 21H1. Both online and from USB media.
Error: 0xC1900101 - 0x20017
The installation failed in SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation

6) Install Windows10 Upgrade 9252

7) Change Telemetry level to Enabled > Enhanced

8) Enable "Give me updates for other Microsoft products"

9) Remove additional languages

10) Disable Acronis True Image Active Protection and Windows Defender

11) Update on clean boot and disable 3rd party services

12) Run Windows 10 20H2 enablement package: "The update is not applicable to your computer"
http://b1.download.windowsupdate.co..._816fd030691161bfc9f892f0e9e1259e23a56c82.msu

13) Go through this checklist:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...rity-and/2964a57f-e6f4-4160-960c-d9c2af02a4f8

14) Go through this checklist:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-188c2b0f-10a7-d72f-65b8-32d177eb136c

15) Remove external hardware.
16) Disk C has 96GB free space, and no errors
17) No errors on Device Manager.
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Couple of things come to mind, have you tried this? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
another is is the hardware drivers and firmware if you have not already tried this go to the manufactures support and install all latest drivers (not MS drivers) and FW for your components, (check Device Manager making sure you don't have any unallocated devices if so correct them) if your using a PC that's clone or many different parts you'll need to look up each component and get their respective updates, looks like the version your on is the EOL and the version may need the servicing stack update (if you have not already tried this one) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-13-2021-8db594dc-dd9e-4df0-b67b-a5e2b8b65a24 and or https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-11-2021-8df8f433-2321-4d67-8654-8d7567efcc91 you can also getting patches directly from MS catalog https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=windows 10

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