Justincase
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What do you think of them compared to other FRFR solutions you've used?Mine are in Xitone passives.
What do you think of them compared to other FRFR solutions you've used?Mine are in Xitone passives.
You didn't ask me, but I gave my input earlier:What do you think of them compared to other FRFR solutions you've used?
I read that...did you guys have the f12-x200 in the cabs? That's what I was asking Andy. I probably should have been more clear. I was asking cuz I've not heard the xitone cabs or CLRs...You didn't ask me, but I gave my input earlier:
https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/what-are-your-favorite-frfr-speakers.174065/post-2110175
Ah, I missed that point... No, mine have the Eminence speakers.I read that...did you guys have the f12-x200 in the cabs? That's what I was asking Andy. I probably should have been more clear.
Best of the lot. The cab design that Celestion recommend is as good but these are smaller and wedge shaped (more use for me.)What do you think of them compared to other FRFR solutions you've used?
Atomic CLR if price is no object, Headrush 108 if you want the most bang for very little bucks
I invested a lot of time last night reading that 22-page thread about those speakers (started back when they were announced), and seems like the general consensus was they're a great speaker for both FRFR (I think they call them FRLR (L=Live)), yet have the feel of playing through a guitar cab, great for feedback, etc.Celestion F12-x200 loaded into celestion spec cabs.
IMO a good class A/B, H, or G Solid state power amp is probably the way to go. You want enough clean low THD power so you won't even come close to clipping. I play them super loud on occasion so I'm using a Behringer epx4000 class H 530watts per channel and it sounds and feels great. Originally I ordered a Crown class A/B but the company was dragging their feet so I sourced an amp local and the Behringer was all I could find. I was surprised its actually a Behringer product that works...for how long now the jury is still out. LolI invested a lot of time last night reading that 22-page thread about those speakers (started back when they were announced), and seems like the general consensus was they're a great speaker for both FRFR (I think they call them FRLR (L=Live)), yet have the feel of playing through a guitar cab, great for feedback, etc.
After a bunch of reading on the topic, I think this is what I want: Dial up a Plexi, and have it sound like I'm playing through a plexi, as opposed to sounding like the playback of a Plexi miked up in the next room. Dial up a Vox AC30... you get the idea.
But there was some back-and-forth about the best amp to use to get them to sound their best. I know you love em, so what amp do you use to drive them? IIRC, it's very important to have enough/the right type of power to drive them pretty hard.
I'm in the same boat as the OP, but there's the sound of the speakers to get the modelling of the Axe/FM3 right, and also the right feel aspect as well.
I don't get the whole redsound hype either. To each their own. Matrix rack amps are also class A/B. Are the matrix frfr cabs as well? I've seen lots of people are happy with both matrix products. I'd like to get my hands on one of the cabs to A/B it against my f12 cab. Of course I was able to build two loaded cabs and get a cheap rack amp for less than what one matrix frfr cab costs. I'm with you on using a 12" speaker. The F12 pushes air and feels awesome. Especially cranked.I owned several frfr speakers. Matrix were, in my personal taste, hands down the best. I bought the active speakers to save rack space.
The hype around the red sound I just do not understand. As far as I know everybody always was on about frfr as a must to get the max out of the axe fx. Now Red sound and the mf thing comes out and it seems it all goes out the window. Imho frfr is a bit of an illusion. Put an frfr speaker on the floor and you get more bass. Put it on a stand and it is more neutral. 8” or 12” speaker also makes a difference just as there is a difference between a 1x12 and a 2x 12” frfr.
If up to me I’d always go for a 1x12” speaker that is designed to be frfr. The axe is built for that and I want to be able to go from fender to friedman to mesa to marshall whatever and My trust in Cliff is that solid that if he says that you should go for frfr, you better go for frfr.
I don't get the whole redsound hype either. To each their own. Matrix rack amps are also class A/B. Are the matrix frfr cabs as well? I've seen lots of people are happy with both matrix products. I'd like to get my hands on one of the cabs to A/B it against my f12 cab. Of course I was able to build two loaded cabs and get a cheap rack amp for less than what one matrix frfr cab costs. I'm with you on using a 12" speaker. The F12 pushes air and feels awesome. Especially cranked.