Super portable “FRFR” thoughts?

digitald00m said:
Those 8 inch speakers are loud enough to play with a drummer?
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SO, I've never used that speaker (although I'd love to check it out) but just wanted to give some real-life 8" speaker experience. I've been using an Electrovoice ZXA1 monitor recently with my digital setup. We play in a 3 piece (plus vocalist) rock band with a very loud drummer. The ZXA1 is plenty loud for any Alt-Rock , 90's Grunge, 80's hairband, 70's hard rock,etc music for the stage sound. BLOWS MY MIND that it is. . I'm going to get something newer and more durable, as this thing is not built to take any falls, etc but I'm a weekend band guy who has loads of great tube amps, and I've literally been shocked something this small can produced the sound it does. SO , being that the RedSounds are even more expensive, and should be better than this, I wouldn't be surprised if they can do it too
 
Ericbr1 said:
SO, I've never used that speaker (although I'd love to check it out) but just wanted to give some real-life 8" speaker experience. I've been using an Electrovoice ZXA1 monitor recently with my digital setup. We play in a 3 piece (plus vocalist) rock band with a very loud drummer. The ZXA1 is plenty loud for any Alt-Rock , 90's Grunge, 80's hairband, 70's hard rock,etc music for the stage sound. BLOWS MY MIND that it is. . I'm going to get something newer and more durable, as this thing is not built to take any falls, etc but I'm a weekend band guy who has loads of great tube amps, and I've literally been shocked something this small can produced the sound it does. SO , being that the RedSounds are even more expensive, and should be better than this, I wouldn't be surprised if they can do it too
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That is amazing that something that small can produce sound like that! I just got the FM9 not that long ago and am looking for something to plug it into that will allow me to play with a drummer. Sold my Randall 4x12 and was looking for an FRFR so I can emulate any cab. I see that ZXA1 is $599 which is way cheaper than many FRFRs! Seems like the ultimate setup would be to run two in stereo with one on each side of the drummer!
 
digitald00m said:
That is amazing that something that small can produce sound like that! I just got the FM9 not that long ago and am looking for something to plug it into that will allow me to play with a drummer. Sold my Randall 4x12 and was looking for an FRFR so I can emulate any cab. I see that ZXA1 is $599 which is way cheaper than many FRFRs! Seems like the ultimate setup would be to run two in stereo with one on each side of the drummer!
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Believe me I'm a skeptic, so it really amazed me. I bought this many years ago when it first came out (with a sub) to do a duet thing with my girlfriend, and although we put together 30 tunes, we ended up never playing gigs, (then broke up after 7 years-story of my life!) and it just sat in my corner unused. (I have a lot of gear.) I sold the sub, as both of my bands were all set on PA gear , and then recently in Nov'23 had a surgery, and decided to check this out with my old AX8 for gigging for lighter weight stuff (instead of my Splawn head, 2x12, and pedalboard, cable bag,etc) . It really has blown me away, volume-wise and sound-quality wise and weighs less than 20lbs. 2 of them would be pretty ultimate. . HOWEVER, It's not a new model at all, and I'm not sure if EV would still provide support /parts,etc for how long, so if it were me I'd buy something newer. Also the outside is made of ABS/Plastic so not durable if you should drop it, etc. Soundwise and weightwise I really like it. I have QSC K10's for my band monitors and those sound excellent too, but I really like this more for the Modelers. I'm tempted to upgrade and am looking at a Yamaha DHR12M but it's hard to believe everything you read without being to try something (Same with you believing me :) ) ... . Anyway, I definitely stand by my opinion that this is very loud enough to keep up with a hard rock-type drummer. My Drummer is a totally PA/Studio gearhead too, and at our last gig last Friday, he just looked at it, shook his head with a grin and couldn't believe all that sound came from such a mini speaker. .. . .
 
I dig my GR Guitar 110A
it is LOUD and ballsy and will hang with a rock band..

I have compared it against going into the FX return of my Friedman Dirty Shirley 40w 1x12 that has a huge sound with plenty of punch and bottom end authority. It hangs no problem.

11lbs
I have found I prefer it horizontally and angled up toward me with the ampwedge.
 
Cainer said:
this is through the FR-12, yes.
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Zowie. I need to get two of them. Been happy with my XiTone wedge for most purposes, but I really need more of a traditional guitar amp "feel" for some of my gigs, and pair of FR-12s would be lovely.
 
Sleestak said:
Zowie. I need to get two of them. Been happy with my XiTone wedge for most purposes, but I really need more of a traditional guitar amp "feel" for some of my gigs, and pair of FR-12s would be lovely.
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yeah, honestly a pair would be amazing - I find one is good, but I would love to have a little more power sometimes. If you've got a super loud drummer you can get erased a little. That said, I'm not running it wide open or anything - just a little gun-shy from diming the thing for fear of blowing something! There isn't an input level/clip indicator on it either, which is kind of a drag, but so far hasn't been a problem.
 
stephanfm3 said:
you need a v2 if you want a clip indicator :)
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I know that the v2 is "coming soon" to Sweetwater and other gear distros, so I'll probably just wait for it to arrive.

Cainer said:
yeah, honestly a pair would be amazing - I find one is good, but I would love to have a little more power sometimes. If you've got a super loud drummer you can get erased a little. That said, I'm not running it wide open or anything - just a little gun-shy from diming the thing for fear of blowing something! There isn't an input level/clip indicator on it either, which is kind of a drag, but so far hasn't been a problem.
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My objective is to be heard onstage at a comfortable volume. I don't need massive power. In fact, I don't even want the capability of high volume, even on large stages! I always tell my bandmates the loudest thing onstage should be our sax player. If you can't hear him, then you're too loud.
 
Sleestak said:
I know that the v2 is "coming soon" to Sweetwater and other gear distros, so I'll probably just wait for it to arrive.


My objective is to be heard onstage at a comfortable volume. I don't need massive power. In fact, I don't even want the capability of high volume, even on large stages! I always tell my bandmates the loudest thing onstage should be our sax player. If you can't hear him, then you're too loud.
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then one should be plenty for you. Every once in a while, I need to weld ;)
 
I've had a pair of Bose S1's for years, used them for lots of gigs and rehearsals including with loud drums. Never had a problem with volume. They're not great in reverberant spaces but nothing is except a line array.
 
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