unix-guy
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And when you mic a real guitar cab that's often required as well.To each their own, in comparison to other amp modelers have always had to do low frequency cutting on Fractal amp models.
That's accuracy...

And when you mic a real guitar cab that's often required as well.To each their own, in comparison to other amp modelers have always had to do low frequency cutting on Fractal amp models.

Indeed with the stated obviousness when miking a cab, except pertaining in regard to the amp modeling itself and not the cab block of the modeler. So in real life instead of low cutting of the miked cab you low cut the frequencies of an amp itself? Hmm, accuracy or precision?...And when you mic a real guitar cab that's often required as well.
That's accuracy...![]()
You usually do the cut in the Cab block.So in real life instead of low cutting of the miked cab you low cut the frequencies of an amp itself? Hmm, accuracy or precision?...![]()
Yes I know, don't mind me, was being sarcastic to a captain obvious response.You usually do the cut in the Cab block.
Sometimes the Captain Obvious response is the correct one.Yes I know, don't mind me, was being sarcastic to a captain obvious response.

Never understood what speaker compliance was doing on the tone? How can it affect the lows?One thing that has helped me remove the characteristic Fractal sound of boominess and blanket over the speaker sound with the FM3 is to turn the Speaker Compliance and Speaker Thump parameters to zero in the Speaker data window of the amp block.
I'm not sure what it is doing in the digital model realm, would have to ask Fractal modeling personnel for an exact answer. Suppose to emulate speaker reactance per literature and reactance is inversely proportional to frequency. It is set to 50% as a stock setting, turning it down appears to take the blanket over speaker sound away that I hear. That was what I was mentioning as characteristic of the Fractal amp modeling due to that stock setting.Never understood what speaker compliance was doing on the tone? How can it affect the lows?
Yes I know, don't mind me, was being sarcastic to a captain obvious response.
Because you seem to be claiming Fractal has some inherent flaw in the amp modeling... Which I don't agree with.Indeed with the stated obviousness when miking a cab, except pertaining in regard to the amp modeling itself and not the cab block of the modeler. So in real life instead of low cutting of the miked cab you low cut the frequencies of an amp itself? Hmm, accuracy or precision?...![]()
They could be using dummy cabinets on stage with one real miked cab backstage or below it. That helps control the stage volume but maintains the rock and roll look.Load box? Lately some of the bands I’ve been seeing don’t have any visible mics. I don’t know if they have a cab in back, a box, or what. I’m not too educated in pro sound. They all have pedal boards. Maybe using Ox boxes or something like that.
Flaw? I never claimed Fractal has an inherent flaw. I quite enjoy Fractal over other modelers. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. Fractal has it's own characteristic sound in it's digital modeling, just as the other manufacturers uniquely have, like Line 6, Boss, Neural DSP, etc...Because you seem to be claiming Fractal has some inherent flaw in the amp modeling... Which I don't agree with.
I cut in the Cab block and have never needed to cut in the Amp block.
Same as with a real amp and cab...
If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.Flaw? I never claimed Fractal has an inherent flaw. I quite enjoy Fractal over other modelers. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. Fractal has it's own characteristic sound in it's digital modeling, just as the other manufacturers uniquely have, like Line 6, Boss, Neural DSP, etc...

There is no flaw, the flaw is apparently in your mind taking it personally with such consumer product bias. No amp modeler sounds exactly like actual analog tube amps, they are just that, a modeled digital recreation with a unique "characteristic sound" from the modeling software and hardware close enough to the real deal. Especially with such drastic variances on component tolerances between same physical amplifiers themselves in real life. It's not an opinion.If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.
Anyway, I don't need to belabor the point further. You're entitled to your own opinion just as much as I am to mine. They can be different![]()
Quite... Ignored!How comical.![]()
This is something that Fractal has proven, by showing traces of the original unit they're modeling and the model of it they created. They're spot-on. There's no characteristic sound, because they've modeled many different amps and they can be proven to be accurate. I'd like to see any other company do the same.If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.