Struggling with boomy bass and harsh mids

And when you mic a real guitar cab that's often required as well.

That's accuracy... ;)
Indeed with the stated obviousness when miking a cab, except pertaining in regard to the amp modeling itself and not the cab block of the modeler. So in real life instead of low cutting of the miked cab you low cut the frequencies of an amp itself? Hmm, accuracy or precision?...:smirk::tongueclosed:
 
One thing that has helped me remove the characteristic Fractal sound of boominess and blanket over the speaker sound with the FM3 is to turn the Speaker Compliance and Speaker Thump parameters to zero in the Speaker data window of the amp block.
Never understood what speaker compliance was doing on the tone? How can it affect the lows?
 
Never understood what speaker compliance was doing on the tone? How can it affect the lows?
I'm not sure what it is doing in the digital model realm, would have to ask Fractal modeling personnel for an exact answer. Suppose to emulate speaker reactance per literature and reactance is inversely proportional to frequency. It is set to 50% as a stock setting, turning it down appears to take the blanket over speaker sound away that I hear. That was what I was mentioning as characteristic of the Fractal amp modeling due to that stock setting.
 
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One thing to note about the Yamaha monitor line (I have the HS50's) is that they are all rear ported. If you are close to a wall things can get boomy. The 50's have next to no response below 100, so I've never had an issue with low end on these.

The whole Yamaha line (except the HS8's) is pretty light in the low end. I think there is a tendency to boost low end on these which can cause things to get boomy outside of highly produced/polished content. I was guilty of this for a while and did a low end boost which wasn't translating well for my mixes.

How do you have the rear controls set? Maybe try messing with the room control to try cleaning things up. At first it might sound like low end is missing but give it a few days and you will start to appreciate the "tightness/clarity" of the low end content. I did anyway.

Regardless there are many many variables at play here.

EDIT: I've swapped back and forth between XLR and 1/4 inputs on these dozens of times over the years and didn't notice any audible differences.
 
Yes I know, don't mind me, was being sarcastic to a captain obvious response.
Indeed with the stated obviousness when miking a cab, except pertaining in regard to the amp modeling itself and not the cab block of the modeler. So in real life instead of low cutting of the miked cab you low cut the frequencies of an amp itself? Hmm, accuracy or precision?...:smirk::tongueclosed:
Because you seem to be claiming Fractal has some inherent flaw in the amp modeling... Which I don't agree with.

I cut in the Cab block and have never needed to cut in the Amp block.

Same as with a real amp and cab...
 
Load box? Lately some of the bands I’ve been seeing don’t have any visible mics. I don’t know if they have a cab in back, a box, or what. I’m not too educated in pro sound. They all have pedal boards. Maybe using Ox boxes or something like that.
They could be using dummy cabinets on stage with one real miked cab backstage or below it. That helps control the stage volume but maintains the rock and roll look.
 
Because you seem to be claiming Fractal has some inherent flaw in the amp modeling... Which I don't agree with.

I cut in the Cab block and have never needed to cut in the Amp block.

Same as with a real amp and cab...
Flaw? I never claimed Fractal has an inherent flaw. I quite enjoy Fractal over other modelers. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. Fractal has it's own characteristic sound in it's digital modeling, just as the other manufacturers uniquely have, like Line 6, Boss, Neural DSP, etc...
 
Flaw? I never claimed Fractal has an inherent flaw. I quite enjoy Fractal over other modelers. Not sure why you're taking it so personally. Fractal has it's own characteristic sound in it's digital modeling, just as the other manufacturers uniquely have, like Line 6, Boss, Neural DSP, etc...
If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.

Anyway, I don't need to belabor the point further. You're entitled to your own opinion just as much as I am to mine. They can be different :)
 
If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.

Anyway, I don't need to belabor the point further. You're entitled to your own opinion just as much as I am to mine. They can be different :)
There is no flaw, the flaw is apparently in your mind taking it personally with such consumer product bias. No amp modeler sounds exactly like actual analog tube amps, they are just that, a modeled digital recreation with a unique "characteristic sound" from the modeling software and hardware close enough to the real deal. Especially with such drastic variances on component tolerances between same physical amplifiers themselves in real life. It's not an opinion.

Every company in the game of modeling claims accuracy, there in lies the opinion, as they should to sell their products to consumers who can make their own biased opinion whether they too think the same.
 
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If Fractal had a "characteristic sound" other than that of the actual amp, that would be considered a flaw because their goal is accuracy.
This is something that Fractal has proven, by showing traces of the original unit they're modeling and the model of it they created. They're spot-on. There's no characteristic sound, because they've modeled many different amps and they can be proven to be accurate. I'd like to see any other company do the same.

https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/index.php?title=Amp_block has a lot of information that's worth reading.
 
Perhaps getting the same amp, in the same room, at he EXACT same vi olume and see what you come up with.
I agree with Unix Guy, those videos are made to SELL PEODUCTS.
EX: As much as I love lari basilio I doubt the Laney amp she uses would sound the same in my room with her playing-the talent would be there but the same sound, uh nope!
 
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