JD_
Inspired
Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for help understanding leveling my patches in the AF3. I know this type of thing is discussed a lot, so apologies for any redundancy here. I play in a classic rock band, and have played a few corporate gigs lately with other groups. I always go direct to PA, and it seems like my signal is always very hot coming from the AF3.
Last night, I practiced with a worship band for the first time. I had dialed in a patch that was just a less gainy version of my normal JCM800 #34 patch with some reverb and delay, and it sounded good to my in my practice space directly to an EV ZLX-12P. I had leveled my patch using the meters on the Output block, where my hardest playing hovered around the spot where black meets red. I have since RTFM and will do it on the Amp block in the future.
When I set up last night and plugged in, I had my Out1 knob up about 3/4. I normally would start at about 50%, but the knob must have gotten bumped in transit on my soft SKB case. The sound guy tells me it's way too hot, so I turn down until I'm at about 10 o'clock on the knob. He says it's still too hot, so I go into the output block on the patch and start dialing the level control down. I started at -8 db on the level, and he kept asking me to turn down until I was at something like -35db. He was telling me he had to cut the 'gain' on his side to basically zero. At that point, my signal was workable, but he didn't seem to like the situation. My tone was fine, I thought, but I had to max myself out on my personal mix, and I couldn't hear myself that well once the whole band was playing in full swing.
I have had this happen with my own band's mixer, and with other PA's, so I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. The guitar I used last night (have tried many across multiple gigs/mixers) was a Les Paul with a 498T in the bridge, and my input level is at about 80. In the I/O screen, I have the Output 1 Output Level at +4db. Couple of questions:
1. What am I doing wrong that my signal is so hot?
2. Do I need to set Out1 to the -10 setting?
3. Should the sound man be adding 'gain' to my signal? Will that affect tone?
Presets are attached if anyone wants to look at them. The 'normal level' is what I started with, and the 'low level' is what I ended up with.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for any advice.
I'm looking for help understanding leveling my patches in the AF3. I know this type of thing is discussed a lot, so apologies for any redundancy here. I play in a classic rock band, and have played a few corporate gigs lately with other groups. I always go direct to PA, and it seems like my signal is always very hot coming from the AF3.
Last night, I practiced with a worship band for the first time. I had dialed in a patch that was just a less gainy version of my normal JCM800 #34 patch with some reverb and delay, and it sounded good to my in my practice space directly to an EV ZLX-12P. I had leveled my patch using the meters on the Output block, where my hardest playing hovered around the spot where black meets red. I have since RTFM and will do it on the Amp block in the future.
When I set up last night and plugged in, I had my Out1 knob up about 3/4. I normally would start at about 50%, but the knob must have gotten bumped in transit on my soft SKB case. The sound guy tells me it's way too hot, so I turn down until I'm at about 10 o'clock on the knob. He says it's still too hot, so I go into the output block on the patch and start dialing the level control down. I started at -8 db on the level, and he kept asking me to turn down until I was at something like -35db. He was telling me he had to cut the 'gain' on his side to basically zero. At that point, my signal was workable, but he didn't seem to like the situation. My tone was fine, I thought, but I had to max myself out on my personal mix, and I couldn't hear myself that well once the whole band was playing in full swing.
I have had this happen with my own band's mixer, and with other PA's, so I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. The guitar I used last night (have tried many across multiple gigs/mixers) was a Les Paul with a 498T in the bridge, and my input level is at about 80. In the I/O screen, I have the Output 1 Output Level at +4db. Couple of questions:
1. What am I doing wrong that my signal is so hot?
2. Do I need to set Out1 to the -10 setting?
3. Should the sound man be adding 'gain' to my signal? Will that affect tone?
Presets are attached if anyone wants to look at them. The 'normal level' is what I started with, and the 'low level' is what I ended up with.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for any advice.