Setting Output

The physical Out 1 knob. Turn it down.

What is your Out 1 knob usually set at?

Why i am sure that he will say at maximum? :rolleyes: This setting is spread like a virus, really. Makes more trouble than fixing things. You always say it but unfortunately not so many people listen to you...
 
Are your presets set using the VU at about the visible line? If so I have my output 1 at noon using XLR to the FOH and the board is pretty happy.
 
Are your presets set using the VU at about the visible line? If so I have my output 1 at noon using XLR to the FOH and the board is pretty happy.
Same for me. My band has a regular gig at an outdoor venue with house PA. I have my presets mostly set at the line on the VU (some are higher or lower based on adjusments made at gig volume) and the sound man always stops me when Output 1 is at about 1 o’clock
 
Do you guys use scenes ? I have been leveling each scene with the per scene slider at the output.
Matching them to the level. Then my leads scene pushes over the line a bit...a few DB to cut through.
Is this the best way to manage a louder scene for lead ?
Thanks
 
Do you guys use scenes ? I have been leveling each scene with the per scene slider at the output.
Matching them to the level. Then my leads scene pushes over the line a bit...a few DB to cut through.
Is this the best way to manage a louder scene for lead ?
Thanks
it's one way. louder sounds will be to the right of the mid-line by definition. some use a Filter, EQ, or any other available block to turn on/off for a boost. many ways to do it.

fyi this question was off-topic :D
 
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My output 1 stay at around 10 oclock.
Have played tons of shows with FOH soundmen and never had a problem.
I would never put it on max...not needed.
 
the big benefit of setting output 1 and 2 to maximum while everything is leveled to lets say 0dB you really can't have any issue with clipping !

The other way round if you have everything leveled to 0dB but output knob at 12 o'clock you can bring the signal easily to clip by increasing the output knob to lets say 3 o'clock !

For me it is better to set the master of my amp or monitor slightly higher than I will ever need it to be and to then to only reduce level with the output knob on AX8 .

Clipping is really bad !
 
the big benefit of setting output 1 and 2 to maximum while everything is leveled to lets say 0dB you really can't have any issue with clipping !

The other way round if you have everything leveled to 0dB but output knob at 12 o'clock you can bring the signal easily to clip by increasing the output knob to lets say 3 o'clock !

For me it is better to set the master of my amp or monitor slightly higher than I will ever need it to be and to then to only reduce level with the output knob on AX8 .

Clipping is really bad !
The problem is most people DO clip the device after the AX8 when they turn it up all the way. Then they think they aren’t allowed to turn it down and have issues at the gig. *shrug* documented many times here.
 
The problem is most people DO clip the device after the AX8 when they turn it up all the way. Then they think they aren’t allowed to turn it down and have issues at the gig. *shrug* documented many times here.

sorry, I don't get your point exactly, how to clip the signal after the AX8 ?
If level is at 0dB while vol knob is full right how to clip the signal then?

to level the output to 0dB with vol knob at max doesn't mean that you have to keep the knob in that position always but makes sure that the level won't exceed 0dB ;-) Or am I wrong?
 
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sorry, I don't get your point exactly, how to clip the signal after the AX8 ?
If level is at 0dB while vol knob is full right how to clip the signal then?

to level the output to 0dB with vol knob at max doesn't mean that you have to keep the knob in that position always but makes sure that the level won't exceed 0dB ;-) Or am I wrong?
You clip the Mixer or speaker after the AX8 - whatever you plug it into.

What do you mean by “0 dB”? What is telling you 0 dB? The VU meter on the AX8 screen? The Out knob doesn’t affect that meter.
 
I start to understand your point - at home my AX8 goes straight into a mixer and I am leveling the AX8 output in reference to the level-meter of the console not the vu-meter from the AX8.
 
I start to understand your point - at home my AX8 goes straight into a mixer and I am leveling the AX8 output in reference to the level-meter of the console not the vu-meter from the AX8.
Many people do not know how to do that, or do not have control of the mixer to adjust. So it’s a problem in many gig and professional situations.
 
In a live situation going straight to a mixing console, is the level coming out of the AX8 with the output knob all the way up much hotter than a pro-level keyboard? I imagine they are both line level, +4 db
 
In a live situation going straight to a mixing console, is the level coming out of the AX8 with the output knob all the way up much hotter than a pro-level keyboard? I imagine they are both line level, +4 db

It depends what you are doing before the "magic output knob" :-) If you set the master vol in amp section to zero - promise - you won't have any signal ;-) So, means - you need to level your presets, first to not have volume jumps between them and second to send an appropriate level to FOH - usually this is about 0dB or in some systems +4dB. your output level depends on each gain stage within the signal chain - even the level knob of the compressor pedal influences the output level.
 
In a live situation going straight to a mixing console, is the level coming out of the AX8 with the output knob all the way up much hotter than a pro-level keyboard? I imagine they are both line level, +4 db
That depends on how you've dialed in your presets. If you have a really hot preset, you'll be kicking out a signal that's hotter than you're likely to get with a keyboard.
 
If my presets are dialed in as recommended, hovering in around the vertical line on the Fractal meter. What output level is recommended for for the balanced XLR outputs? What is the general consensus here?
 
If my presets are dialed in as recommended, hovering in around the vertical line on the Fractal meter. What output level is recommended for for the balanced XLR outputs? What is the general consensus here?
Turn the Out 1 knob up to what you need to cooperate with the next device. It’s a volume knob so you are allowed to change it during performance if necessary.

I’ve always recommended the range of 9 o clock to 3 o clock. Start at 9 o clock and set your mixer or speaker from there. Need a bit more? Turn up but be sure to not clip the next device with a drastic change. Some who agree with that general method say that 9 o clock is too low of a starting point. That’s fine, but then why are we allowed to turn that low if it was detrimental?

In my solo and other gigs, I use a digital mixer and I use that to control levels, so for ease of use and repeatability from gig to gig, I set the AX8 output at maximum. Then I change the levels only from the mixer. I hear no difference in tone or less noise with this method.

Some suggest turning it all the way up to prevent noise, but in my 10 years of experience with FAS gear specifically, I have never had additional noise or issue when setting it below maximum.

The user manuals mention to turn the Output knobs as high as possible for best signal to noise ratio. This is a general statement for anything in audio really, the concept of gain staging. But some have interpreted that sentence to mean specifically “you must turn it up all the way for no noise.” It’s not what that means at all.

Use your judgment and work with your gear. There really is no standard or single correct knob position to gain stage any gear. And in my experience, any setting of the Output knobs works well with such a high quality device.

(Perhaps one exception is if you barely turn the Out knob up and it’s screaming loud - that’s clearly not a good setup since you have no range on the knob, and this typically means that the next device is set too loud.)
 
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