RIP Prince...

Sad news..... RIP.

I've never been the proverbial fan. But he surely was a very creative artist with his own
sound, that managed to get my attention more then a few times through his career.
Certainly in a different league than a lot of musicians in that era.

I just heard on the radio that there are supposedly more than a few thousand unfinished
songs stored in a safe under his studio. Who knows... We might not have heard the last of him.
Which would be cool!
 
Facemelter said:
I said I like Prince.

I'm not rude for the sake of being rude... I just don't sugar coat things, and I tell the truth how it is.

You wanna know what's really disgusting???? all these people crying over Prince dying... are you not aware that THOUSANDS of people all over the world die every day including today... Prince wasn't any more important than anyone else that died today.

As far as shutting my mouth, this is America, and you can give your opinions and have your say, and so can I.
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Yeah! I can see people gathering around your grave just to piss on it...any relation to romeo?
 
Facemelter said:
I wouldn't go that far... at all. Prince was a huge inspiration to me as a kid when Purple Rain movie & CD came out, but really other than that and a few other hit singles he had, that's all I cared for. I'm a neoclassical rock guitarist myself, so comparing Prince to Mozart is sacreligious.

Prince could play a few notes on a guitar, just like John Mayer can, however he was no virtuoso on guitar.

He may have been a great Artist... but that's an entirely separate thing as to being a virtusoso and master of an instrument such as Mozart...

Mozarts, Bachs, Beethovens of OUR times????

Yngwie Malmsteen
Steve Vai
Randy Rhoads

Pick one of those three and I will agree with you all day they are the Mozart, or what ever great classical composer you want to relate to them.

But not Prince... he was JUST a pop rock star, he was no more talented than Rick Springfield, who I also like.

But he was nowhere in the same league as a Mozart or a Yngwie... not even close.

Classical music such as Mozart is the highest form of music and virtuoso skills on an instrument as musicians can strive to reach.... Prince wasn't even in the same universe as Mozart.

Mozart wouldn't even think Prince worthy enough to sharpen his pencil so he could write more notations haha

RIP Prince, you were good for the pop rock style you were known for, mostly the ONE cd Purple Rain...... but even Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumkins was more of a "artist/guitarist" than you, and you damn well were never close to Mozarts level of skill, haha.

Just have to keep it reall yall.

PS I also think Jimi Hendrix is overrated, after all it was just primitive blues based music mixed in with lots of noise, which I like Hendrix too, but just saying Prince was not even close to Hendrix either....

Sure I thought Prince had a little guitar POTENTIAL after the CD Purple Rain, but that's the thing, after Purple Rain Prince never really made any more ROCK GUITAR CDs.... the guitar stopped being his primary focus.

It's a insult to Mozart & YJM to say Prince was a Mozart, and it's a insult to Hendrix to even say Prince was close to Hendrix.

I'm not bashing Prince at all, I liked Purple Rain CD, but let's just keep it real and not make him into things he never was and never could have been.

Marty Friedman, Vinnie Moore, Eric JOhnson, hell even they are closer to Mozarts caliber on a instrument than Prince.

Prince dabbled on guitar just as he did on all the other instruments he played. He was more of a songwriter/singer/showman than a skilled instrument player/composer. That's just a fact.

PS PS special note to Yek... I see you just stated you put me on ignore just because eyou disagree with facts I put out and want to live in delusion? See, that tells me so much about you as a person Yek that you are WEAK when you have to go to the extreme of IGNORING someone just so you can go to your 'safe space" and not have to read anything they write.

And one more thing.... what's with all this shock that Prince is dead???? he was 57! That's quite old and LOTS of people start dying NATURALLY around that age.
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57 old, really ????????
 
Facemelter said:
I said I like Prince.

I'm not rude for the sake of being rude... I just don't sugar coat things, and I tell the truth how it is.

You wanna know what's really disgusting???? all these people crying over Prince dying... are you not aware that THOUSANDS of people all over the world die every day including today... Prince wasn't any more important than anyone else that died today.

As far as shutting my mouth, this is America, and you can give your opinions and have your say, and so can I.
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Cliff or any other person of authority should have this person (which is most likely Romeo Rose) banned for lack of decorum.

I think I can speak for the majority of members on here in stating that the comments made by this individual are clearly out of line and not welcome in this community.

Sorry for derailing the post, but Prince was a legend that made great contributions to music. He deserves nothing but respect, especially during this time of mourning.
 
atyourlasthourrr said:
Cliff or any other person of authority should have this person (which is most likely Romeo Rose) banned for lack of decorum.

I think I can speak for the majority of members on here in stating that the comments made by this individual are clearly out of line and not welcome in this community.

Sorry for derailing the post, but Prince was a legend that made great contributions to music. He deserves nothing but respect, especially during this time of mourning.
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Disagree, he has a right to his opinion just like you. Just because his opinion is different from yours and others on this forum doesn't make him wrong, it's just different. Quite frankly he makes some good points, I don't agree with all of them but so what. It shouldn't be, "let's gang up on someone and make them look bad" just because you hold a different opinion. Yeah Prince was a cool artist, and definitely stood out with his musical abilities, showmanship, and popularity. Will I miss him, quite frankly no, I never knew the guy, but I still have his records and will continue to appreciate them as I did before.
 
guitvai1 said:
Disagree, he has a right to his opinion just like you. Just because his opinion is different from yours and others on this forum doesn't make him wrong, it's just different. Quite frankly he makes some good points, I don't agree with all of them but so what. It shouldn't be, "let's gang up on someone and make them look bad" just because you hold a different opinion. Yeah Prince was a cool artist, and definitely stood out with his musical abilities, showmanship, and popularity. Will I miss him, quite frankly no, I never knew the guy, but I still have his records and will continue to appreciate them as I did before.
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I never said he should be banned for having a different opinion, that actually has nothing to do with it.

It is this individuals lack of decorum and civility that should get him banned. Review his posts in this thread, he verbally attacked Chris and continued to make very disrespectful comments about Prince's death.

Certainly you can disagree with someone on here without personally attacking them, I'm sure it happens every day.
 
atyourlasthourrr said:
I never said he should be banned for having a different opinion, that actually has nothing to do with it.

It is this individuals lack of decorum and civility that should get him banned. Review his posts in this thread, he verbally attacked Chris and continued to make very disrespectful comments about Prince's death.

Certainly you can disagree with someone on here without personally attacking them, I'm sure it happens every day.
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I don't agree with banning someone simply for having a different opinion, but his insults against Chris@AxeFxTutorials
were grade school level. Really, Face, is that all you've got? That's just pathetic and lame.

If it is Romeo Rose, then judging by what I've heard of his sound clips, he has no business trash talking other musicians given his own skills, which are quite lacking.
 
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I just want to thank Prince, for getting that music is not just about chops, and not just about pleasing or getting noticed or famous. There is something of the soul in it, and it only pays an artist back in ways that only an artist can understand. I think you helped teach me this.

I can paint from you a picture in which that which touches us can be fast or slow, contain many pitches or simple slow bends, but matters because of where it goes and where it takes a fan. If you were ever heard to be critical or snide of other performers or artists, I can't recall a single instance of this.

Not one to plagiarize or become drunk on non-productive fame, not limiting success but also not limiting vision, you will always be one of the real artists, and I consider you heavy company. You transcended the boundaries you existed in and I have a sense you helped others around you live in more realerness, like other greats we all know.

When I happened to be on a joyous little vacation, walking on the Ocean City boardwalk and all the teens were in those "record your own cover song" booths, the most popular song at the time was Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares To You. The song is reminiscent to me of your, The Beautiful Ones, delicate in timing and melody. Though profoundly sad it speaks to me of the happiness of being in such intimate touch with sadness as to rise beyond it. And I have to wonder, that little use of the flat note, "to" in the phrase "to you", was pure genius; I'm pretty sure, since its in the sheet music, that it was your touch - a very musically significant point I noticed when the bubblegum minded music teachers were teaching keys and scales and not bothering to look at what comes between them. Generally, even if that could have been Sinead's touch (and she no doubt sang the song beautifully - as no one on those boardwalks could approach), this is what I get from knowing your work; nothing about you is presumptive. It looks beyond. And so I look beyond when it comes to your passing; not with grief but proud of the respect you paid to life and life pays to you. You were not only doing what you did for the present I am sure. And so this is how I will consider your being.

Not finally, you always felt like you were putting showmanship and entertainment together with searching expressive genius and message. I didn't always get it - I was pretty removed from the "scene" you lived in. But the presence of such a being, in a world with many cultures, is as unifying and bonding and peacegiving. With you, as with any complete artist; your work continues living forever.
 
My friend and colleague, Dave Rusan (see my sig), was interviewed yesterday following Prince's death. Dave built this, among other things:


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I can't embed the video of the interview, but here's the link:



A treasured piece of Prince's history is now safe-guarded in one the nation's premiere museums. The iconic guitar he used in the "Purple Rain" movie is at the Smithsonian.

We caught up with Dave Rusan who built that guitar for Prince. The Bloomington man first met Prince while working at a twin cities music store back in the 1970's. Rusan describes Prince as quiet and polite. Rusan tells us he was honored to help Prince make music history.

"I took on the challenge but I never made one at that point but I thought how can I turn this opportunity down I'll regret it for the rest of my life," Dave Rusan of Rusan Guitarworks said.

Rusan says Prince made Minneapolis the center of the music world in the 1980's.​
 
Drama. Some of this diminishes the subject.

I spent yesterday listening to HitNruN. I was amazed that I have not spent more time recently with his music. It has more to do with 70's funk/R&B than anything else. It goes to show that despite my best efforts, I hear the marketing noise from our 'about to be defunct' record companies more than I spend time looking for quality music.

Prince, IMO, is in a Mt Rushmore of songwriters. The sheer depth and breadth of what he's done throughout his life is astonishing. Compound that with the fact that he has on the order of 500 (or so) unfinished songs and demos sitting in his 'vault'. (Just imagine THAT box-set.) His talent is unimaginable for most of us. His facility on the instruments he played (haters think what you want, but he is a MONSTER guitarist,) his ear for 'different', and how he lived to perform. He would frequently play a high energy show, then sit in with house band at an after party. Anyone who's seen his shows knows just how great he was live...usually surrounded by a nimble set of musicians who could go wherever he might lead them. He LIVED for everything music.

From what I know about him (which is precious little), he almost had a disdain for songs after they left his head. Like a true artist, the music HAD to come out...what happened to it after that he cared little. I argue this is exactly why he took control of his own music..the industry DEMANDS that you put out albums that will SELL, not just be quality music. By the way they treated his material, they forced him to care about what happened to it afterwards...thus he wanted free reign so he could 'not care' after the songs poured from him.

From my standpoint, this cut deep. And I don't think that we will understand his true contribution for quite a while. Sadly, more people will explore his music at his death than they did when he was alive.

Sad. And I hoped fervently it would not be a tawdry story that we've heard so often. A mix of drugs, a miscalculation of dosage, a mistake that kills you. But it's looking more and more so that this is what happened.

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