Rectifier too much bass ?

[atlas-rise]

Hello All

I would like to ask a question that interests me very much.
Why does the Rectifier (recto1 red) amp sound so bassy? I know we can use boost and get result.
But as far as I know, Hetfield from Metallica uses this amp without any boost and the sound is fine.
What is the trick ?

Thank you

 

[Rex]

The number-one trick is to turn down the bass.

 

[atlas-rise]

The number-one trick is to turn down the bass.

Bass all 0, presence all 10 and treble 8. It still sounds very bassy. There must be a way to train this beast without using a boost as Papa Het

 

[EdgE]

What speakers you using , try different v-30’s

 

[skolacki]

I don’t use the Boogies but input low cut in the amp block is something I use a lot. It is the de-flubbifier.

 

[Rex]

How do the factory recto presets sound to you?

 

[EdgE]

I love the JP model ,doesn’t have to much bass.

 

[fcs101]

Here are some tidbits from Yek's guide:



"Rectifiers can have an enormous amount of bass. Especially in Modern mode, because the lack of negative feedback. Some players deal with this by adding a low-gain Drive pedal before the amp. This has a similar effect as engaging the Cut switch or increasing Low Cut in the amp model."

I lost track how many times the word "bass" was used in that section!

 

[2112]

That's what the real amps are like. High passing before the amp, either with a filter/EQ, amp block cut switch/input low cut or using a drive pedal is the way to go.

My personal favourite is the amp block "grinder" boost. Try the FAS Modern model if you want a Recto without all the funky stuff.

 

[kywabunga]

The number-one trick is to turn down the bass.

Rectifiers hate this one trick! LOL

 

[atlas-rise]

Apparently, rectifier amp is not plug-and-play like IIC++ without booster or other drastic manipulations. Its strange to me why Hetfield invests on this amp.

 

[fcs101]

Apparently, rectifier amp is not plug-and-play like IIC++ without booster or other drastic manipulations. Its strange to me why Hetfield invests on this amp.

No, they take some effort to dial in. Still, they are a definitive sound and are great for some genres. Have you tried the FAS Modern III?

 

[yek]

https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/...ODERN_.28MESA_Dual_Rectifier.2C_2_channels.29

 

[Bungholio]

If you turned the bass down to 0 and it's still too bassy, you're using the wrong cab IMO.

 

[atlas-rise]

If you turned the bass down to 0 and it's still too bassy, you're using the wrong cab IMO.

using 4x12 Cali. I use it for all my high gain presets. love it =)

 

[atlas-rise]

No, they take some effort to dial in. Still, they are a definitive sound and are great for some genres. Have you tried the FAS Modern III?

FAS Modern III is great but is it Rectifier ?

 

[fcs101]

FAS Modern III is great but is it Rectifier ?

The FAS Modern III is FAS' take on a rectifier-like amp. The FAS amps are idealized versions.

This is from Yek:

FAS MODERN III: added in firmware 17. Similar to a Recto but with tighter bass and a cathode-biased power amp. Watch out if you select this, it is LOUD! Use one of the 4x12 Recto stock cabs.

 

[nicolas galletti]

Recto 1 Red is one of my favorite amp models in the fractal world for dirty sounds. It sounds so nasty and it's full of character and it's been getting just better with the updates. I agree its very bass heavy compared to the Recto 2 but you can compensate that with the IR you choose like many mentioned also I'd apply a low cut up to 100hz. Sometimes is good to have that extra low end in case you need it for an specific purpose rather than adding it with post EQ's which is actually harder to make it sound "natural" and overall it's better to just cut what you don't need. Also by just turning on the "cut" button on the main amp page will definitely help without doing too much. Cheers

 

[MSS]

A neat trick is to use the 5 band mark eq with the usual settings in the amp output eq.

 

[Thomas Obester]

always easier to cut the bass rather than add it later