DoneMaybe this topic title should be renamed to something about noise removal?
DoneMaybe this topic title should be renamed to something about noise removal?
I do something very similar, and it works OK for my home office, which has a LOT of EMI.What ended up working for me, as far as noise gates go was to use the "sidechained to input 1 between the amp & cab blocks" approach AND also setting the input block gate type to Noise Reducer, with -7dB threshold, 2.00 ratio, 1.00ms attack, & 100.00ms release. That cut out a lot of hum I get for whatever reason and gave the sidechained gate a bit more room to breathe.
The ISP decimator in the Egnater amp I had was incredible w HiGainI had similar headaches with the Fractal noise gate. As you stated, coming from the ISP Decimator doing its job with one knob, it really bothered me that I couldn’t get the Axe Fx to perform similarly. The only thing that solved my problem was making my tone less noisy and reducing amp hiss. Disengaging the Bright switch on high gain amp models helped a lot. Now my noise gate is acceptable, but still not 100% where I think it should be. I do place the gate after the amp block with side chain source set to input 1. I have a scene control switch set to the threshold so I can keep it tight for staccato chugs and looser for leads. It’s a little crazy that I need to do that when, again, the Decimator was basically “set and forget” and responded well to all types of playing. I never had to adjust the gate for different parts of a song, unless I turned it off for desired feedback. But it’s the best thing I could come up with and it’s fine I
I had similar headaches with the Fractal noise gate. As you stated, coming from the ISP Decimator doing its job with one knob, it really bothered me that I couldn’t get the Axe Fx to perform similarly. The only thing that solved my problem was making my tone less noisy and reducing amp hiss. Disengaging the Bright switch on high gain amp models helped a lot. Now my noise gate is acceptable, but still not 100% where I think it should be. I do place the gate after the amp block with side chain source set to input 1. I have a scene control switch set to the threshold so I can keep it tight for staccato chugs and looser for leads. It’s a little crazy that I need to do that when, again, the Decimator was basically “set and forget” and responded well to all types of playing. I never had to adjust the gate for different parts of a song, unless I turned it off for desired feedback. But it’s the best thing I could come up with and it’s fine I guess.
Something about it made it more intelligent than other gates. I imagine the Fortin Zuul is comparable as well. I like fast attack and release times for the most part because I’m more of a rhythm chugger, like Fear Factory or Meshuggah. The ISP would respond well to that and then would loosen up depending on your playing. If it’s patented technology, that doesn’t surprise me, because it’s excellent. I don’t expect the Fractal to predict what I’m going to play / when I’m going to stop, but somehow the ISP would pick up on it quickly when I’m playing a choppy riff.The ISP decimator in the Egnater amp I had was incredible w HiGain
Even the HuSH stuff was great
The boss ns2 works very well in 4 cable method when you want to untouch your clean tone and have it activated only in your channel 2 (in a real head), i agree, many people said that this pedal suck because they don’t use it in 4 cables … To compare it with an isp you need to purchase the one with 4 jacks, not the decimator 2 but the decimator g string .My main amp in the fractal is the recto2 and Ive never had a noise issue, its dead quiet. I always thoight the ISP pedal was snake oil, and the boss ns, routed properly, was superior.When I had tube amps I tried everything under the sun, I HATE the noise they make. The axe solved all that for me instantly.
Between amp and cab block seems strange as you first amplify the hum before filtering it
yes and the thing is, while using this noise supression, the highs in your tone are intact, no loss at all.This is a very interesting discussion.
Before I got the Axe-FX III, I would just play though plugins, and my preferred noise gate was to use Voice DeNoise by Izotope, where you let it listen to the noise in your current environment, and it applies a murtiband noise filter to your signal (I put in right after the guitar input), which you could still adjust, and the thing was miraculous for this purpose. It worked during picking, like some have mentioned about ISP, and that was the unique thing about it. I do miss that.
Following because I have a lot of noise now I’ve gone to single coil land.
Marshall even had an extremely effective gate in their Kerry King sig head, that allowed for natural feedback to develop but also clamped the signal down if you muted the strings