Quote Originally Posted by hoss
"And the beta Users dumped their's. What a trainwreck (not the amps)."
And which beta users would those be?
Please let me get this straight. You're saying you know of *no* owners who had advance notice of the AXE II release and sold their old units, correct?
Look at the history of completed listings on eBay and tell me some people weren't tipped off. Please!
The sell off started on April 27, two days prior to the start of the "countdown" on April 29, with units selling as high as $2650 for an ULTRA on April 27. Look if you don't believe me. Do you think that buyer is pissed now?
It's not a big deal really, but to deny that some people had inside info and sold their units for a lot more than those of us not privy to this information before the prices dropped dramatically is to deny the obvious. The evidence says otherwise. I refer you to the eBay completed listing history as proof. What more proof do you need? No, I can't name names, but I can name eBay names of the sellers. Maybe I should collect all the ebay names of those who sold before the countdown and post them with the sale prices for all to see. I think that would settle this particular question.
eBay user "derekjurovich" sold an ULTRA on eBay for $2650 on April 27th. Did this person have a "vision", or was it just coincidence? If it was coincidence, there are a lot of simultaneous coincidences. The probability of that happening is almost ZERO.
All I expect from a company is honesty. I see no evidence of dishonesty on the part of Fractal Audio. You simply CAN'T tell your competition or even your customers what is in the works for the future. Had the AXE II been announced to the world months ago, Fractal would have gone broke for lack of sales.
The only thing I don't quite get is that the old models have generally been out of stock for some time now, so an announcement a couple of months ago would not have hurt the company (how could it if they had nothing to sell and no competitors to the AXE II) and would have lessened the negative (for owners) impact on prices of old units.
Again, that's life and I see nothing inherently unfair about it. But in light of the *extremely convincing* circumstantial evidence I find it impossible to believe that nobody knew and nobody dumped their units on ebay, and for MORE than they paid new in some cases - MUCH more.
But that's OK. However, denying that it happened on some scale is not OK. It's impossible to find beta testers without tipping off a few people. My guess would be they were asked to keep it under wraps, but apparently some didn't if indeed they were requested to.
DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS from the completed listing sales on ebay just PRIOR to the countdown, with very few listings prior to April 27. On April 29 when the countdown started ebay was flooded with units. That's understandable, but the units sold prior to the start of the countdown look as if the owners were tipped off.
If you have a logical explanation for an ULTRA selling for $2650 (along with a few others at high prices) two days prior to the countdown I'm all ears. Please explain so people will stop thinking that it happened. If it did happen, don't say it didn't.
Thanks.
