rodzimguitar68
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Have you tried using the high and low cut settings in the Cab block? All you are doing with a "speaker before a speaker" is EQing...
Have you ever listened to isolated recorded guitar tracks? They sound very different from what they sound like in the mix, and often sound quite bad on their own.
Are we in Soviet Russia, suddenly?...a speaker chooses YOU!
"All you are doing with a "speaker before a speaker" is EQing..." LOLOLOLOL.
C'mon man. Come on. I just listened to some of your tunes. Where's your lead tone? Before we continue I need some proof. I put my audio sample up to be criticized, do the same and I'll take you seriously. No, it's not just an Eq before a speaker.
I have everyone of Van Halens Isolated guitar tracks, if you think the following sounds bad, then we are simply operating from two completely different aesthetic realms. Apples and Oranges.
from the comments section:
"I'll put this single guitar track up against anything any guitar player has done.. It's got it all.. Tone, aggression, swing, virtuosity and a godlike control of the instrument.. Downright SCARY to other guitarists.. Sure, There's lots of guys who play faster, more technical.. But nobody has topped Ed's ability to put it all together without ever being predictable or repetitive."
Bingo!
"All you are doing with a "speaker before a speaker" is EQing..." LOLOLOLOL.
C'mon man. Come on. I just listened to some of your tunes. Where's your lead tone? Before we continue I need some proof. I put my audio sample up to be criticized, do the same and I'll take you seriously. No, it's not just an Eq before a speaker.
I have everyone of Van Halens Isolated guitar tracks, if you think the following sounds bad, then we are simply operating from two completely different aesthetic realms. Apples and Oranges.
from the comments section:
"I'll put this single guitar track up against anything any guitar player has done.. It's got it all.. Tone, aggression, swing, virtuosity and a godlike control of the instrument.. Downright SCARY to other guitarists.. Sure, There's lots of guys who play faster, more technical.. But nobody has topped Ed's ability to put it all together without ever being predictable or repetitive."
Bingo!
Ah, okay.
Is it possible to turn the speaker section in the amp completely off? My guess is that it will sound awful, just going through the cab section. Here, I'll put my money where my mouth is. The only way I could get this non-fizzy tone was by putting a speaker before a speaker, or an IR before an IR. I can't describe technically why this worked, it just did. This is from free online software...
Todays racket-making. Van Halen "House of Pain"- "Panama" - "Hang em High" ... trying really hard to get the bottom to punch while leaving air in the high-end.
Thanks man.Do you put your take on a loop, so you can A/B your track with VH's while making adjustments?
You're getting there, but your HOP track sounds more "air-ey", and I'm not sure if that's because of too much ambience, or not enough low end, etc.
You have great feel for copping Eddie's playing dude!
Dude! You got Eddie going on more than 90% of the players out there. I wouldn't worry about that. (Unless it's the tone aspect, which I guess I could see that wearing a person down. When I feel that way, I switch to something totally different. haha)Thanks man.
For me A/B-ing is the Target. I'm not there yet, I'm also avoiding doing it because I don't want to get depressed. ha.
There's 4 switches on that page: Boost, Sat, Fat, & Cut. I'm working on some Petrucci 16th-note syncopation riffs @ 130bpm, which requires a tight tone, so I just went in there myself, and first tried turning off the Boost, but it was too much. But rolling off the level tightened things up nicely. Lots of combinations for sure.In the amp, on the preamp page, even if you turn off both switches ( I can't remember their names right now) it still has a massive effect on the tonal quality. So, don't think "Off" is off, it isn't. I worked a lot in that section today.
Todays racket-making. Van Halen "House of Pain"- "Panama" - "Hang em High" ... trying really hard to get the bottom to punch while leaving air in the high-end.
Dude! You got Eddie going on more than 90% of the players out there. I wouldn't worry about that. (Unless it's the tone aspect, which I guess I could see that wearing a person down. When I feel that way, I switch to something totally different. haha)
There's 4 switches on that page: Boost, Sat, Fat, & Cut. I'm working on some Petrucci 16th-note syncopation riffs @ 130bpm, which requires a tight tone, so I just went in there myself, and first tried turning off the Boost, but it was too much. But rolling off the level tightened things up nicely. Lots of combinations for sure.
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Thanks for the kind words skolacki and TSJMajesty.
These were my settings.
You can see input boost and preamp sag are off. Well, they still worked a bit, even when off.
Tube Hardness is something I constantly play with on all the pages. Oftentimes I'll turn it off in preamp and make-up for it in the Pwr tubes section. The hardness and bias make big differences to the sharpness of the tone. Too much Tube hardness and you lose the note entirely. I don't mind it for rhythm, but for alternate picking, semi-mute stuff, I don't like what it does. Also, in the Speaker page I set the response to Soft, no compression, maybe a bit of drive. Bass, and Depth are tricky if you want the tight tone, which I do. I find I'm lowering Bass in the Ideal Page, and adding a touch of Depth.
Overall, I like turning things off, or removing them.
If you get a tight tone going TSJMajesty, let me know about it, that is what I'm striving for.
Based on what you're tweaking, I doubt I have the fine-tuning abilities you have, or your ear. Plus, I'm not trying to get as close to another player's tone as it seems you are. I tend to bounce between a few factory presets I've tweaked, and then just play. The freakin thing sounds so damn good, that I generally can't mess with too much before I just wanna get to playing.If you get a tight tone going TSJMajesty, let me know about it, that is what I'm striving for.
What I can suggest is start a new thread with your best clip so far, and ask for suggestions specific to what you're after. I think you'd get some more eyeballs that way.
The Preamp Boost switch is only related to Boost Type and Boost Level. When it is OFF there should be NO effect from either of those controls.View attachment 105494
Thanks for the kind words skolacki and TSJMajesty.
These were my settings.
You can see input boost and preamp sag are off. Well, they still worked a bit, even when off.
Tube Hardness is something I constantly play with on all the pages. Oftentimes I'll turn it off in preamp and make-up for it in the Pwr tubes section. The hardness and bias make big differences to the sharpness of the tone. Too much Tube hardness and you lose the note entirely. I don't mind it for rhythm, but for alternate picking, semi-mute stuff, I don't like what it does. Also, in the Speaker page I set the response to Soft, no compression, maybe a bit of drive. Bass, and Depth are tricky if you want the tight tone, which I do. I find I'm lowering Bass in the Ideal Page, and adding a touch of Depth.
Overall, I like turning things off, or removing them.
If you get a tight tone going TSJMajesty, let me know about it, that is what I'm striving for.
Because it's not an on/off... There are 3 values: off, on ideal, on authenticYour Saturation boost appears to be on. Not sure why there isn’t a ‘switch’ like there is for the boost.