Rocketsurgeongeneral
Inspired
Does anyone have any suggestions for the ideal EQ for metal tone? Graphic vs Parametric? How many EQs should be in my signal chain? What are some key advantages and disadvantages that one has over the other?
What do you mean?
In the newer firmware there is a pre eq and post eq in the amp block.
There's a saying "there are no wrong questions" but I feel like this is the exception!
Just kidding but I'll straighten up something. NEVER USE EQ BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO!!! If you have a good tone don't mess with it.
My ideal tone would come from Sylosis - After Lifeless Years, doing my best to try and copy that. I appreciate the well thought out response and there's no need to apologize!There's a saying "there are no wrong questions" but I feel like this is the exception!
Ideally I think it's best to try and get away with as little EQ as possible. Post or pre EQ is what I believe to be the "lazy fix" for something that most likely could've been fixed early on and most likely it would've sounded better that way.
"Ideal EQ for metal tone?"
What kind of metal are we talking here? Dio? Iron Maiden? Metallica? Slipknot? Metalcore? Djent? All of these are drastically different guitar sounds.
"Graphic vs Parametric?"
Depends on the use case. Do you want low cut or just to shape the EQ balance? They essentially "do the same thing" so it's up to you. Which ever sounds better.
"How many EQs should be in my signal chain?"
If you're using good IR's and an amp that's tweaked correctly, ideally you don't need any EQs!!!
I'm sorry if this comes across as arrogant, I assure you, I'm trying to give you the most helpful answer. Don't use EQ just because someone told you to use EQ. The amp has EQ and your cabinet modeling is all about EQ. Find the correct ones and don't use GEQ or PEQ "just because".
he means use them.
Ok, so I went into the amp block and clicked on Output EQ, I found the 250hz band and cut it to -2. It's an 8 band Var Q type.
Ok, so I crank the Qs (Q1-Q2-Q3-Q4-Q5) I adjust the Frequencies (1-2-3-4-5) I dial up the Gains (1-2-3-4-5) and as far as detecting frequencies goes, I only hear a variation when actually playing with the knobs but no change in the sound.
did you see that suggestion in this thread or somewhere else?
this suggestion is to boost to max to find offending frequencies. once you find them, you cut them to get rid of frequencies you don't like.
There is some really good advice in this thread. But the best advice is to try and get as close to the sound you want without EQ. Once you are at that point then use EQ to fine tune your sound. The best place to start sculpting your tone is with the amp and cabinet. Create a preset with just an amp, a cabinet, and maybe a overdrive/distortion block. Research the amps and cabinets that the guitarist that you want to sound like uses. Start with those and keep it simple for a couple weeks tweaking a little at a time until you get close to your sound. When you are at the point where you are happy with that sound, then decide if you need to use EQ.
That to me sounds like the classic tubescreamer into Peavey heads into V30 4x12 cabs. The tubescreamer is there to make the low end super tight and with something like the 5150 amps it'll be super tight with a lot of gain. Then the V30 4x12 cab will make things very neutral sounding. Leon's tips for low end and high end filtering are good. Also in this genre of metal people tend to add post EQ around 400hz to get rid of that "warm/fullness" to make the sound "meaner". Personally I'm not the biggest fan of this but it belongs to this genre of music.
