Tahoebrian5
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I'm experimenting with down tuned riffs. Kinda djenty. Anyway how do you get the boomy mud to cut tight for staccato type stuff. My normal patch is a muddy mess.
Here is the top secret trick: what you wanna do is cut the low end before the gain stages, then bring it back in after. So, basically an easy way to do it would be to add a Filter Block, (or you could use an EQ or better yet a PEQ) before any Drive pedals and the Amp. Use the Low Cut on if you’re using the Filter Block set it somewhere around/between 60-120, if you’re using a PEQ you can be a bit more surgical so you might want to opt for that & you can pinpoint where you’re flubbing & Cut that right out. Then you put another PEQ After the Amp and add the low end back in to make everything nice & thick again. You could also use the Amps EQ section as long as it set for Post Power Amp.
Also the Cut Switch on the Basic Page in the Amp Block can be very helpful here as well too. Sometimes less on the Bass control on the Amp and a little more on the Deep can clean up the low without losing all low end. But it’s the post EQ that’ll put the lows back in that’ll do it.
What you have to avoid is sending a lot of low end frequency thru the Preamp gain stages, that’s when things get muddy, undefined & a mess. So you take a lot of it out, then bring it back in after.
Every pickup is going to have a different EQ curve, but I'd start with a peaking EQ with a couple db boost, relatively narrow Q and sweep it from about 1k up to about 1.8k. You'll probably find that character in there somewhere. HPF at about 80-150hz.I am also interested in the op question and this is great info. The whole PEQ thing confuses me a bit - could you provide an example patch that shows how you have the PEQ's set?
You make a really good point here as well. There is a whole lot of interplay with a lot of these amps between the Master Volume and also the Preamp Gain & the mud factor of the low end.lower the master volume in the amp block
Here is the top secret trick: what you wanna do is cut the low end before the gain stages, then bring it back in after. So, basically an easy way to do it would be to add a Filter Block, (or you could use an EQ or better yet a PEQ) before any Drive pedals and the Amp. Use the Low Cut on if you’re using the Filter Block set it somewhere around/between 60-120, if you’re using a PEQ you can be a bit more surgical so you might want to opt for that & you can pinpoint where you’re flubbing & Cut that right out. Then you put another PEQ After the Amp and add the low end back in to make everything nice & thick again. You could also use the Amps EQ section as long as it set for Post Power Amp.
Also the Cut Switch on the Basic Page in the Amp Block can be very helpful here as well too. Sometimes less on the Bass control on the Amp and a little more on the Deep can clean up the low without losing all low end. But it’s the post EQ that’ll put the lows back in that’ll do it.
What you have to avoid is sending a lot of low end frequency thru the Preamp gain stages, that’s when things get muddy, undefined & a mess. So you take a lot of it out, then bring it back in after.
That applies, as you mentioned, to the Mark series amps, because their tone stack is located before the preamp. As a result, the BMT-controls on those amps sort of act as gain knobs for their according spectrum.This is basically what I've heard John Petrucci say about getting his thick TIGHT tone.
Mark series heads, bass control way down then add it back with the graphic...same principle as stated above.
That applies, as you mentioned, to the Mark series amps, because their tone stack is located before the preamp. As a result, the BMT-controls on those amps sort of act as gain knobs for their according spectrum.