Hoping to get amp/cab captures in Fractal gear in the future, does that appeal to anyone?

You can use the Tonex to capture amps from the FM9. It can make a fine compact back up unit.

Captures can sound quite good as long as you are able to dial in exactly the tone you want on the source before you capture it. They suck at adjustability compared to full models.
I’m so happy with my Fm9 Turbo that I don’t feel the need for anything else. I’m tempted to buy the Am4, because I can’t stand other modelers now, but I think I will wait until the next generation of a Fm3 for a better portability. Anyway, thanks for answering, it could be a good idea, but I love the effects in Fractal as well, and I don’t want something inferior.
 
I recently bought a ToneX one and after twenty minutes was repacking it to send it back. Awful to me ears. I wanted as a back up for my Fm9…. Nope!
Finding good captures can be a pita, + input levelling needs to be considered (if possible (rare it seems), the capturer needs to reveal what the gain compensation was in the interface they used to make the capture). If one can get that figured out, it can sound quite good. Not for everyone tho, and imo these are things that make modellers much easier to deal with in comparison not to mention having a full living amp model vs a static capture at specific settings.
 
What captures did you try? It will be very dependent on that - there’s various captures that sound fantastic.
I tried the stock ones, which should represent what the unit is capable of. The effects were just ok and with only a handful of parameters to adjust. To me, it didn’t not responded like an amp, and forget about tweaking anything in the amp, is just a photograph. I’m sure there might be very good sounds out there, but I don’t want to spend time searching for it. I compared various amps to the ones in my Fm9 and it was night and day. I will wait for a future Fm3 (Fm4?) for portability and back up.
 
Ability to capture or use nam profiles would be great, this would solve in an instant the incessant requests for "amp type x" to be added, please ADAMP1... ad nauseum. A long time ago IIRC Cliff said he had something way better than Kemper, and was waiting on patents to end or something. Nothing ever became of it for whatever reason.

If you don't want it, please move on, crapping on other peoples want's is doing nothing productive. Don't want it don't use it.
I understand the uncalled for sarcastic and rude comments but to say move on? the OP ASKED FOR OPINIONS.,
Personally I have no need for it but don't begrudge anyone else wanting it..............
 
I get tired of sifting through captures quickly. I bought one of the latest capture devices and spent a couple days playing with it. It just gets so tiresome trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. Every now and then you find a gem but the other 99% is garbage. Scrolling through 68 different captures of "Attic Find w/ Radio Shack Speaker" is drudgery.

And the gains are all over the map. I downloaded something that was supposedly "Crunch" and it had more gain than a 5150 on 10 boosted with a Beelzebub Mark III Throat Ripper. It seems like there's no consistency in gain normalization and, in general, the captures have way more gain than expected.
 
And the gains are all over the map. I downloaded something that was supposedly "Crunch" and it had more gain than a 5150 on 10 boosted with a Beelzebub Mark III Throat Ripper. It seems like there's no consistency in gain normalization and, in general, the captures have way more gain than expected.
That's the biggest problem of Ton... ehm, latest capture devices/plugins, they don't have any kind of level calibration and anyone who makes a capture does it cluelessly regarding gain/level or, in very few cases, calibrated for its own audio interface, and that makes those labels a total mess.
At least NAM has metadata for I/O levels calibration/compensation, even though not everyone uses it.

If I guessed right what device that is, it doesn't even have a real input gain, it's input trim parameter is applied digitally which is pretty much useless for improving SNR or avoiding clipping.
 
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I get tired of sifting through captures quickly. I bought one of the latest capture devices and spent a couple days playing with it. It just gets so tiresome trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. Every now and then you find a gem but the other 99% is garbage. Scrolling through 68 different captures of "Attic Find w/ Radio Shack Speaker" is drudgery.

And the gains are all over the map. I downloaded something that was supposedly "Crunch" and it had more gain than a 5150 on 10 boosted with a Beelzebub Mark III Throat Ripper. It seems like there's no consistency in gain normalization and, in general, the captures have way more gain than expected.
THIS. I would rather invest the time and development in adding more modulation and delay pedals, especially the ones that offer something different sonically among maybe a more user friendly UI, but I’m happy already.

I personally have zero interest in captures, given the amazing quality of the amps and cabs we already have.

By the way, just wanted to say that the amp and cab blocks are truly amazing. It’s mind blowing what you can do. Nothing out there is even comparable. THANKS!!!!
 
Yeah the real strength is being able to capture your own amps and pedals. Otherwise it's trudging through endless "shot in the dark" profiles.
 
I get tired of sifting through captures quickly. I bought one of the latest capture devices and spent a couple days playing with it. It just gets so tiresome trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. Every now and then you find a gem but the other 99% is garbage. Scrolling through 68 different captures of "Attic Find w/ Radio Shack Speaker" is drudgery.

And the gains are all over the map. I downloaded something that was supposedly "Crunch" and it had more gain than a 5150 on 10 boosted with a Beelzebub Mark III Throat Ripper. It seems like there's no consistency in gain normalization and, in general, the captures have way more gain than expected.

Perhaps ironically this was my experience with IRs for many years. Love the DynaCab implementation as it makes things so much easier.
 
I get tired of sifting through captures quickly. I bought one of the latest capture devices and spent a couple days playing with it. It just gets so tiresome trying to find the proverbial needle in a haystack. Every now and then you find a gem but the other 99% is garbage. Scrolling through 68 different captures of "Attic Find w/ Radio Shack Speaker" is drudgery.

And the gains are all over the map. I downloaded something that was supposedly "Crunch" and it had more gain than a 5150 on 10 boosted with a Beelzebub Mark III Throat Ripper. It seems like there's no consistency in gain normalization and, in general, the captures have way more gain than expected.

Throat Ripper is my new band name.
 
If I guessed right what device that is, it doesn't even have a real input gain, it's input trim parameter is applied digitally which is pretty much useless for improving SNR or avoiding clipping
Correct wrt my Tonex - Input Trim is after A/D conversion and basically the same as the gain control except its global as opposed to saved per preset.

The pedal defaults to -8 compensation as an interface so if the capture was done at ie -12 via interface xyz, then the Pedal's Trim should be at -4 to run the capture accurately either on the pedal or on computer (stand alone or in DAW) tho I prefer to use the gain control for this type of compensation so I can save it per preset (different captures may have been taken at different interface level compensations). The level compensation gets too tricky for general consumption imo. Most captures are over gained likely because the creator does not reveal the level compensation on the capture and the user has the pedal's Trim set too high (there's lots of bad input level advice out there that results in captures running too hot). I'm only running Tonex with my own captures or ones I bought from a trusted creator that provides consistent calibration info and samples taken with various guitars. Sifting thru ToneNet is a dog's breakfast.
 
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I understand the uncalled for sarcastic and rude comments but to say move on? the OP ASKED FOR OPINIONS.,
Personally I have no need for it but don't begrudge anyone else wanting it..............
You misunderstood my comment I believe, It was more pointed towards those who did not want the capture function, and proceeded to crap on the idea at all, and felt the need to comment on it. Much of the internet is like this, the need to comment on something or crap on someone elses wishes because they don't line up with yours. But it's the same with better UI or touchscreen, half want it half think it's the dumbest thing in the world. No way to win.
 
It was more pointed towards those who did not want the capture function, and proceeded to crap on the idea at all, and felt the need to comment on it
I've been vocal about not wanting capture or touch screen tech in Axefx due to the opportunity cost / the impact on other initiatives I think are more important. I still think it's a valid opinion to express here (just as valid as the opinion of those that want it) particularly when given with logical supporting reasons - tho I've toned it down lately as it seems inevitable now.
 
Yeah the real strength is being able to capture your own amps and pedals. Otherwise it's trudging through endless "shot in the dark" profiles.
This is where I think the capture units really become awesome. Take captures of your own amps, with your own settings, where you can tweak the gain levels and EQ and you can check to make sure the results match your actual amps. Then you have a portable version of your tone you can put in your pocket.
 
It would be for me too if I used IRs when trying to dial in a new tone, but I just use DynaCabs.
DynaCabs simply offer a wider variety of tones that I typically don't like. For me, great-sounding IRs are rare. Without Smoothing (as with the FM9), they are virtually non-existent. I think having to choose captures as well would be the end of me.
 
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