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Request, and this may be a local settings issue, but when saving a preset the text is black on a dark-grey box. Very difficult to read. White text (or lighter boxes) would be awesome.

Edit - I notice this is only an issue within my DAW (using Cubase 15) so possibly an issue due to that. The dark-grey box in standalone is white.


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It’s really pedantic, but IMO the volume controls on the cab block should be faders and not pots.

And I like that they’re inversely linked, but I’d also love the ability to unlink.

Vertical faders very quickly distinguish what the control does visually without needing to look around or read. The plugin already uses faders for levels in places - IMO pots are fine on things like a drive pedal, gain control or master volume. When it’s purely clean volume affecting an output, a fader just does the job better.

Having the same style knob for so many features, regardless of what the control does (and its overall importance) is not optimal design. The pots aren’t really helping anything here.

I mentioned before about some channel EQ being really useful prior to summing. Something more akin to a channelstrip where there is polarity, filter, eq, pan and fader would be amazing.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
It’s really pedantic, but IMO the volume controls on the cab block should be faders and not pots.

And I like that they’re inversely linked, but I’d also love the ability to unlink.

Vertical faders very quickly distinguish what the control does visually without needing to look around or read. The plugin already uses faders for levels in places - IMO pots are fine on things like a drive pedal, gain control or master volume. When it’s purely clean volume affecting an output, a fader just does the job better.

Having the same style knob for so many features, regardless of what the control does (and its overall importance) is not optimal design. The pots aren’t really helping anything here.

I mentioned before about some channel EQ being really useful prior to summing. Something more akin to a channelstrip where there is polarity, filter, eq, pan and fader would be amazing.
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Everyone knows virtual faders don’t sound as good as virtual pots. :)

Personally I like the current look of the amp block.
 
Musicroom said:
Personally I like the current look of the amp block.
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Just so I’m clear - what’s the benefit to the user to have the same knob style for pan, high cut, low cut and volume? Is there a benefit over having slightly different sizes/colours/positions for things that do vastly different things.

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It’s functional and gets the job done, but IMO the filters could be smaller with a different knob style, Pan could have a different knob style or colour, blend could be faders along with the master fader on the right. A horizontal bar for panning would be pretty unambiguous without needing to read anything.

Giving them all the same level of visual importance doesn’t really add anything to the user experience. It just means you have to do more work looking for things and reading.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
Just so I’m clear - what’s the benefit to the user to have the same knob style for pan, high cut, low cut and volume? Is there a benefit over having slightly different sizes/colours/positions for things that do vastly different things.

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It’s functional and gets the job done, but IMO the filters could be smaller with a different knob style, Pan could have a different knob style or colour, blend could be faders along with the master fader on the right. A horizontal bar for panning would be pretty unambiguous without needing to read anything.

Giving them all the same level of visual importance doesn’t really add anything to the user experience. It just means you have to do more work looking for things and reading.
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I personally think if things get too colored or different it can create focus issues.

At least to me when looking at this cab screen everything feels natural and nothing jumps out that wants me to keep focus on it only and makes me forget about some other parameter etc. My eyes can wonder fine across the screen without feeling like I forgot something somewhere else or trying to remember a smaller or bigger aka different knob, or trying to remember a green or red or purple knob for a specific thing etc.
 
BROCKSTAR said:
I personally think if things get too colored or different it can create focus issues.
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This just comes down to good or bad design. Bad design would cause issues, implementing it well makes things easier.
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At least to me when looking at this cab screen everything feels natural and nothing jumps out that wants me to keep focus on it only and makes me forget about some other parameter etc. My eyes can wonder fine across the screen without feeling like I forgot something somewhere else or trying to remember a smaller or bigger aka different knob, or trying to remember a green or red or purple knob for a specific thing etc.
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This is precisely the point - in good design, your eyes should be drawn to the most important controls with a hierarchy. Having them all of equal visual importance is what makes things slower and more cluttered to use. High cut and low cut should not have the same importance as volume. There isn't really any visual clues on what the most important controls are - the user has to do work to figure it out. Good design should minimise this.

Our visual system is tuned for triage. It evolved to answer one question first: what matters most right now? We scan for contrast, size differences, motion, colour shifts, spatial grouping. The brain builds a priority map in milliseconds.

Primary controls should get our attention first and be the most intuitive and natural to find.
Secondary controls should be smaller and less obtrusive.
Tertiary (and beyond) should possibly even require more work to expose them.

Having contrast, varying sizes, various colours and knob styles is only distracting if its implemented poorly. It's the same reason why skeuomorphism isn't intrinsically good or bad, it's the execution of it that is important.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
I mentioned before about some channel EQ being really useful prior to summing. Something more akin to a channelstrip where there is polarity, filter, eq, pan and fader would be amazing.
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I get it. And try to find more of a sound design nerd than me. My ever email of sonic substance to Cliff was about polarity!

That said, this type of thing just is not for ICONS. Like the AM4, the whole idea is to keep it simple and focused — great core sounds without options and extras. If you need that kind of flexibility right now, the hardware is totally where it's at.

Never say never on future plugin ecosystems, but ICONS is staying simple.
 
unix-guy said:
The controls are a "blend" between the 2 IRs. Unlinking would break the whole paradigm...
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Correct. Based exactly on AM4, the ICONS blender is a response to, well, a lot of people complaining that individual "Cab Levels don't work".
It's NOT a level control by the way. And it can't be one control without diverging too much from some important underpinning elements that I can't get into.

By the way... I made a dB <--> Blend converter for dorks like me. Duplicate it for use.

Code: 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-cuwoBO-5Ai3oFrtpC3ikNDEvRI4dEmMSGpO4N_ghI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
 
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MirrorProfiles said:
what’s the benefit to the user to have the same knob style for pan, high cut, low cut and {blend}
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Uniformity creates simplicity. Pan, High Cut, Low Cut, and Blend are controls of equal importance, so they share the same style. Related controls are grouped spatially. This consistency keeps people unperturbed and moving forward.

The Cab basic screen is nowhere near busy enough to require extensive differentiation. Each side has fewer knobs than many analog pedals. The only intentionally distinct visual element here is the mic position dot, because it requires a fundamentally different interaction.

On the same principle which explains why a Bassman or a Diezel or a Mesa doesn't have Red, Blue, Yellow AND Green knobs, it would be disturbing for any control or group to so much as whisper, "Psst... Caveman... look at me!!!"

Also, color is deliberately reserved for MIDI control/modulation, so it carries meaning that can't be mis-used here. PS: as a matter of accessibility, we don't use color alone for UI differentiation; you'll also see a dot by the modified parameter name as shown below.

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Admin M@ said:
It must be, since we have not seen this on any other system. @samschachter and @Michael Pickens may be able to force this color here in case Windows is somehow trying to override it.
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Cheers @Admin M@ - I think this is probably specific to the DAW I'm using (Cubase 15). I tried in standalone mode and it's fine - white box. Have edited my post. I'll play some more later to see whether I can do something within the C15 config.
 
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Uniformity creates simplicity. Pan, High Cut, Low Cut, and Blend are controls of equal importance, so they share the same style. Related controls are grouped spatially. This consistency keeps people unperturbed and moving forward.

The Cab basic screen is nowhere near busy enough to require extensive differentiation. Each side has fewer knobs than many analog pedals. The only intentionally distinct visual element here is the mic position dot, because it requires a fundamentally different interaction.

On the same principle which explains why a Bassman or a Diezel or a Mesa doesn't have Red, Blue, Yellow AND Green knobs, it would be disturbing for any control or group to so much as whisper, "Psst... Caveman... look at me!!!"

Also, color is deliberately reserved for MIDI control/modulation, so it carries meaning that can't be mis-used here. PS: as a matter of accessibility, we don't use color alone for UI differentiation; you'll also see a dot by the modified parameter name as shown below.

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I’m not sure I agree with any of this, but I respect your opinion. The examples of it being distracting are bad are because of bad design, not to do with colours or anything else.

Using filters are not of equal importance to blend or pan. Blend/volume is the primary control out of these 4. Most adjustments are going to be made by choosing cab and mic, moving the mic and adjusting the level. Filters will come after that. You’re only going to adjust filters after choosing your mic, position, and blend.

IMO the filters should be smaller knobs and the positioning of each control should be differentiated more. It’s all fine, but it can also be much better.

Uniformity doesn’t help anything in actual use - if anything it makes your brain work harder because the only distinguishing feature is the text. Plugins that look pretty aren’t just tricking you with eye candy, and IMO, for plugins that are doing a lot of different types of processing using more visual distinction is useful.

Fractal users are typically going to feel right at home with this but I think it’s worth considering a much wider audience.

I’m not saying this is an amazing example, but imagine if everything here used uniform controls:

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MirrorProfiles said:
I’m not saying this is an amazing example, but imagine if everything here used uniform controls:

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Pic for reference...

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It certainly has some nice elements, but kinda reminds me of my salad last night... except very inorganic.

A little loud for my liking. Show 50 people, you'll get 50 different opinions.

I like things dark (mode). And I like eargasms.

I like Fractal. Turtles not bad, either...

















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