Fractal VP4!

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Chromatizm said:
I'm so surprised to read that people are complaining about "4 pedals only" while running expensive, heave and big boards with 10+ pedals, many of which are digital already, when they can run 2 VP4 max, and with Fractal's flexibility of switches and scenes have any combination of effects they'd normally use within just a couple of switches max.
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Or, they could have made one product that has at least 6. 4 is just ridiculous.
 
octatonic said:
The VP4 would be a great addition to that pedalboard and could allow me to get rid of 3, maybe 4 pedals on that board.
I am totally down.
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Then it's not really a VP (Virtual Pedalboard), is it? It's a 1/2 VP, if you have to throw other fx onto the same board with it.
 
pima1234 said:
I agree that there are plenty of people who would love to see an updated FX8. It was a great product. Footswitches, layout, ease of setting up presets, simple 4cm (or stereo) routing, and more. With all the updates and additions to the effects, it would be the top of the current market for a full-fledged multi-effect unit, by a large margin.
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100%. For all the others who are throwing hate my way, to me the above seems like an absolute no-brainer.
 
I would say, to make it more useful/shut the haters up, could be great if you could instead queue up different blocks instead of different channels. Like, a lot of what I do I don’t have the luxury of a pre planned set list. I need core tones, and then 6 or 7 different effects I cycle through as needed.

So four switches, but you can set a switch to cycle through 4 different mod types as needed, etc. That is the main reason I went back to individual multi effects (boss MD,DD,RV 500). So if I’m playing with a group and I have my reverb and delay set, but instead of chorus I want to throw on a phaser, I can just switch to it whenever I want.

I would looove to see that in a all in one at some point.
 
jshirkey said:
Or, they could have made one product that has at least 6. 4 is just ridiculous.
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It's actually not. I've seen more people with one-three pedals in jam situation, then people with huge boards.
And if you have a huge board and have all 10 "on" all the time, then let's be honest, you are in a very specific category
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On most other cases you have three to four effects "on" at the same time, rarely more.
Wanna bet we'll VP8 for those who need 50 shades of reverb?
 
FullReverse said:
So if I’m playing with a group and I have my reverb and delay set, but instead of chorus I want to throw on a phaser, I can just switch to it whenever I want.
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That's why the device will have presets. Switch to a preset with Phaser. As this is a FAS product, it will have the "views/layouts" functionality as the rest of em.
Or just change the block in the current preset.
 
Chromatizm said:
It's actually not. I've seen more people with one-three pedals in jam situation, then people with huge boards.
And if you have a huge board and have all 10 "on" all the time, then let's be honest, you are in a very specific category
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On most other cases you have three to four effects "on" at the same time, rarely more.
Wanna bet we'll VP8 for those who need 50 shades of reverb?
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Worship guitarists combine forces to overcome this attack against our oversized mega-boards, including 18 Big Sky pedals! lol

But yeah, you're not really wrong.

I think VP4 is a good idea, particularly if the H90 was in view. (There's a reason why I looked at that pedal and then rather quickly looked away, whereas I'm still interested in the VP4.)

Still, the FX8 was pretty much perfect, and an updated version simply with the addition of the 3rd gen effects, would be ideal to me. I'll take the simple X/Y over the A/B/C/D, and the additional simplicity offered by the 3 utility footswitches. It was so well thoughout. It is a virtual pedalboard with 8 blocks available, leaving few limitations. For as cool and fun as it absolutely can be, I don't even really need all the awesome synth stuff, but the FX8 handled that well.
 
Chromatizm said:
That's why the device will have presets. Switch to a preset with Phaser. As this is a FAS product, it will have the "views/layouts" functionality as the rest of em.
Or just change the block in the current preset.
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I think you missed the part where I said I often don’t have the luxury of replanned sets/presets. I want any button to be able to switch to any effect.. like a “favorites” I can cycle through. Cycle to favorite delay, cycle to favorite phaser, etc, no matter where I am without having to set it up ahead of time.
 
Ian Minogue-Corps said:
That’s not the same thing at all, I have an FM9, I’m au fait with the Fractal way of doing things and this seems deliberately obtuse
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I also have an FM9 and use it. I simply prefer the simplified work flow of the FX8.
 
Chromatizm said:
It's actually not. I've seen more people with one-three pedals in jam situation, then people with huge boards.
And if you have a huge board and have all 10 "on" all the time, then let's be honest, you are in a very specific category

On most other cases you have three to four effects "on" at the same time, rarely more.
Wanna bet we'll VP8 for those who need 50 shades of reverb?
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I don't need 10 on all at the same time. I need to have at least 6 fx available in any given preset to be able to turn on or off as needed.

On TGP, I gave this example. Let's say 4 fx blocks are all I'd need for most parts of a song, but then I have a section that ditches the other fx and needs a comp and a trem. Can't do that with the VP4 without having to switch to another preset.

Yeah, if someone has a basic blues, rock, or jazz gig, then you probably only need 4 fx most of the time. Even then, though, I bet people would discover that they wish they had another fx block for a rotary effect, or a synth, a trem, or any other oddball effect they need in the moment.
 
jshirkey said:
ven then, though, I bet people would discover that they wish they had another fx block for a rotary effect, or a synth, a trem, or any other oddball effect they need in the moment.
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Yeah, with the usual pedals they'd need to buy it first.
I get what you are saying, but clearly no unit can fulfil everyone's wishes and use cases. Even Axe3 would need to be smaller and be of a size and price of a single Boss pedal to get there :D
 
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