FM3 Firmware Version 7.00 beta 3

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Anyone notice random booting into the tuner if one gives the Input 1 some audio before the Dyna-Cabs fully decompressed during the boot process?

Not a big deal obviously, but I've seen it happen twice now with 7b3, and my Tuner assigned FC (FC1-Hold), was unable to deselect the Tuner when it happened, though the Front Panel could via the Home Button.

Curious...
 
New issue...playing normal with a preset, then the preset just stops and FM3 edit loses connection with the unit, then I go to try and tweak the setting on the unit itself and it's frozen. This has happened a few times.

Rebooting is the only way for it to get it working again.
 
New issue...playing normal with a preset, then the preset just stops and FM3 edit loses connection with the unit, then I go to try and tweak the setting on the unit itself and it's frozen. This has happened a few times.
Interesting. I'm having the same issue on a preset which jumps from 70 to 80 on some scenes and has a lot of controllers in use (almost all of them, actually). Sometime the device unfreezes after a few minutes, sometimes not. Somehow the most "slow" to work with block is Multiplexer.
 
New issue...playing normal with a preset, then the preset just stops and FM3 edit loses connection with the unit, then I go to try and tweak the setting on the unit itself and it's frozen. This has happened a few times.

Rebooting is the only way for it to get it working again.
This has happened to me a number of times with presets involving the Peavey 5150!!
 
I am running 7.00 beta and already updated FM3 Edit and installed Dyna cabs.
To upgrade to 7.03 I'm assuming the only thing I need to do is install the beta3 firmware and then hit 'refresh after firmware' thing in FM3 edit and that I do not need to send the dynacabs to the unit again or anything as those will not have changed right? Same thing moving forward as they continue to update beta I can just update the firmware and hit refresh in FM3 edit every time and good to go nothing else to do yes?
 
I am running 7.00 beta and already updated FM3 Edit and installed Dyna cabs.
To upgrade to 7.03 I'm assuming the only thing I need to do is install the beta3 firmware and then hit 'refresh after firmware' thing in FM3 edit and that I do not need to send the dynacabs to the unit again or anything as those will not have changed right? Same thing moving forward as they continue to update beta I can just update the firmware and hit refresh in FM3 edit every time and good to go nothing else to do yes?
Should be good to go. You might be the first. Have you already updated FractalBot and FM3 Edit? You should do that first, then the firmware, then I'd run the dyna cab install one more time just to be sure. Only takes a minute anyway. Cheap insurance.
 
Actually crashes are unknown to me and my presets have cpu around 60-70. Yesterday I had a freeze after playing a preset with 5153 50w blue channel for an hour. One time coincidence? Today it ran without problems.
 
Can confirm, the preset uses 5153 50w blue channel, and three Revv channels. Will remove 5153 and see if it helps.
Replaced 5153 with a few different models, didn't really change overall slowness (of FM3-Edit?), but no more HW freezing for me.

Overall slowness of device-2-PC connection is quite noticeable compared to previous FW. It can take up to 15 seconds after changing the scene to reflect the changes in FM3-editor. During this time it will keep showing the previous scene settings and even allow you to apply changes (not sure device will keep them though).
With 77% CPU, it takes 3 to 5 second to load all the values on the "ideal" page - meaning when you click to AMP block after the scene is loaded, for example, it shows you 5F1 Tweed as an amp and empty value fields for a few seconds, and then loads actual data).

I wasn't able to replicate the HW lags I've experienced yesterday (like "input select" value in Multiplexor block not reacting/not changing when you scroll "A" or "Value" wheels and device freezing for a minute or more), but midi switching of scenes using Behringer boards also lags a lot sometimes without any visible reason no matter the CPU load, changes come late similar to device-2-PC changes. I cannot replicate this reliably, it can work now and not work in 15 minutes.

I can drop a preset to Fractal team via PMs if needed cause it uses YA IRs.
 
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Is it supposed to be like this?
Dynacab input stereo
4x12 recto straight Left Ribbon and Right Dynamic1. Rest of the dials as default.

Align -> overlap the two waveforms.

total silence
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New issue...playing normal with a preset, then the preset just stops and FM3 edit loses connection with the unit, then I go to try and tweak the setting on the unit itself and it's frozen. This has happened a few times.

Rebooting is the only way for it to get it working again.
What is the CPU %?

CPU Usage helps explain what happens when the CPU is pushed into thread starvation, but this is the gist of it:
When you approach the CPU limit of your processor, you’ll notice the GUI becoming very slow, while audio is still okay. That's because the audio signal gets the highest priority, above the GUI refresh rate.
If the CPU demands are too high even audio will stop and the unit will try to make the UI available, but sometimes it’s buried so badly it can’t move. I’ve managed to accomplish that a few times.

Feel free to share the preset and we can try to help.
 
What is the CPU %?

CPU Usage helps explain what happens when the CPU is pushed into thread starvation, but this is the gist of it:

If the CPU demands are too high even audio will stop and the unit will try to make the UI available, but sometimes it’s buried so badly it can’t move. I’ve managed to accomplish that a few times.

Feel free to share the preset and we can try to help.
about 73%
As soon as I move one waveform out of being overlapped with the other one I get sound.
Is there any phase inversion setting that I might have turned on/of experimenting with this?
It's like the waves are cancelling each other

Update:
I did a screen recording with the "thing" happening then played it back to verify and surprise surprise - no silence when overlapping the waveforms. (I was listening through the headphones)
quick check of the jacks in the back - now is no longer happening
darn cables... :|
 
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about 73%
As soon as I move one waveform out of being overlapped with the other one I get sound.
Is there any phase inversion setting that I might have turned on/of experimenting with this?
It's like the waves are cancelling each other

Update:
I did a screen recording with the "thing" happening then played it back to verify and surprise surprise - no silence when overlapping the waveforms. (I was listening through the headphones)
quick check of the jacks in the back - now is no longer happening
darn cables... :|

That can happen when summing to mono results in some amount of phase cancellation. Headphones will correct it somewhat because you are isolating the signal per ear but it will still sound off.
 
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Okay so I fully backed up my FM3 before I updated firmware to the beta.
After I got the beta I ended up finding and uploading some awesome presets and IRs from the Gift of Tone series (so badass! Thanks @FractalAudio) and I created a couple new ones to experiment with DynaCabs with some of my favorite amps on here.
If for some reason I want to go and use the backup I made to revert back to current non beta firmware will that get rid of the new presets that I now have and any changes I've made to anything since the backup or will it work around all my new presets and changes I've made (except for the DynaCabs I'm know it'll have to remove those for now if I do revert back) to revert the firmware without that happening?
Do I need to make a new backup of the new presets I have now to reinstall after reverting to non beta firmware or is that unnecessary? I realize that some of my questions here might be just asking the same thing worded a different way sorry about that.
 
Okay so I fully backed up my FM3 before I updated firmware to the beta.
After I got the beta I ended up finding and uploading some awesome presets and IRs from the Gift of Tone series (so badass! Thanks @FractalAudio) and I created a couple new ones to experiment with DynaCabs with some of my favorite amps on here.
If for some reason I want to go and use the backup I made to revert back to current non beta firmware will that get rid of the new presets that I now have and any changes I've made to anything since the backup or will it work around all my new presets and changes I've made (except for the DynaCabs I'm know it'll have to remove those for now if I do revert back) to revert the firmware without that happening?
Do I need to make a new backup of the new presets I have now to reinstall after reverting to non beta firmware or is that unnecessary? I realize that some of my questions here might be just asking the same thing worded a different way sorry about that.
If you have a lot of time into the new presets I would back them up separately. I haven’t gotten to what will happen if the new presets use Dyna Cabs running on old Firmware. Basically, it’s always best to backup when making major changes just to be safe.
 
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